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Default OT - Daily Mail Eco ******** - "Big brother to switch off yourfridge"

On 02/05/13 16:04, harry wrote:
On May 2, 8:56 am, polygonum wrote:
On 02/05/2013 06:28, harry wrote:










The street is what you need to know about.
The frequency business is ********.
If the voltage falls locally future smart meters could "report back"
and turn a few local wind turbines/PV panels on. ;-)
Or maybe some of these as they become common.
http://www.ecpower.co.uk/english/
(Co-generation)
Or maybe stored power in electric vehicle batteries.
This is what Smart Grid technology is about.
All these PV panels/small wind turbines will need controlling at some
point in the future. As they become more numerous, they can't be left
running uncontrolled as at the moment.
And they will also cut off non essential thing if needed.
Anybody who co-operates with all this will be rewarded. (As with PV/
other renewable power at the moment)
The important bit will be to monitor all this an there will be
financial inducements for people to do this. ie different prices for
importing/exporting power at different times.
We ain't seen nothing yet.

Sounds wonderful - you have charged your electric vehicle using solar
panels, along comes a grid issue, so your vehicle battery is discharged
into the grid - along with any electricity your solar panels are producing.

End result, flat battery. And goodness knows what else unable to run due
to being cut off.

At least with a traditional power cut you don't lose that which you had.
At least with petrol they don't empty your tank during power cuts. Mind,
if they autostarted your little backup generator, and fed that
electricity into the grid as well, they could then empty your
generator's fuel tank quite nicely.

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Rod

It's a serious idea that has been mooted for some time.


Its certainly been mooted for sometime but its not serious harry. You
only need to do the sums to see it is utter nonsense.

But it fooled you , which was the purpose of it.

Lots of electric cars BTW, not just mine.


If every household in the country had a 22Kwh car fully charged, it
would run the grid for 10 hours in winter before the entire country
blacked out.

So if all we had was solar and wind, that's exactly what would happen in
a dark windless 14 hour night.

No more need be said. Its ********.



And re the generator, see my link. This is a co-generation device for
the home. Runs on gas BTW.


oh great. instead of 60% efficient central generation we have poxy
little domestic gas boilers doing 30% efficient generation..

sheesh harry, you are a dumb **** if you think that one will fly.

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