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Default How do I fix this basement leak?

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:33:33 -0700 (PDT), "
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On 4/27/2013 10:30 PM, CraigT wrote:
My walkout basement leaked a bunch of water from under the drywall
right
next to my doorwall last week when we had a really hard rain storm. I
thought it was another crack in the poured concrete walls, but to my
surprise I found an area next to the doorwall where framing on the
sides
of
the doorwall extended down below grade. I guess what ever they had
covered
this with (OSB or one by) has disintegrated in the 12 years since the
house
was built and dirt had filled in the area between the studs. When we
had
that exceptionally hard rain the water got wicked up over the
basement
floor
level.


Looks like I'm going to need to cover this with something fairly
water
proof. I was thinking about maybe using a piece of one by wolmanized
that I
back buttered with some foundation waterproofer tar then after I
install
it
cover it with blue-skin and more waterproofer. I really don't know.


Here are some pictures.


http://i.imgur.com/Vg6hsQI.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/5cs2glG.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/I5cvHIt.jpg


Bad design!
You must not have building inspectors where you live, or it wasn't
inspected correctly. How many more of the sills around the house are
below
grade?


--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
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Agreed.


Well, it's raining today and I noticed something that is making the
problem
even worse. The perforated drainage tube that goes down to the drainage
tube, that empties into to the sump pump (then it is pumped to the
pond),
well because the footing sticks out about 6" at back of the house this
drainage tube is sloped at an angle and a lot of the rain water is
emptying
out of the perforations and being deposited right next to the wall.


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I have no idea that all that means and the pic doesn't
show it in context.


The downspout should have had a gooseneck in it to get it 6" away from the
siding so that when it runs into to the drainage tube the drainage tube
would end up more vertical and not at an angle. The drainage tube being
perforated, all the water is just running out at the bottom of that slope.


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OK, that makes more sense. *So, you're saying the
water from the gutters goes into a PERFORATED pipe
and that in turn feeds into the sump pump? * That, IMO,
is really dumb for 2 reasons:

1 - Why would it be perforated?

2 - Why would you channel water into a sump pit where
it has to be pumped out, instead of just running it over
to the lower area, pond etc directly? * Among other bad
things, what happens if the electricity goes out during
a rain storm?

Are you sure it doesn't go over to the pond directly?
Perhaps the output from the sump pump feeding into
the same line?

Nope. ALL the rain water collected from the roof goes into the drainage
tubes that run around the perimeter of the house. *This runs to the sump
pump which pumps it into the pond. *This is typical for the entire
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You really live in one screwed up place. You only pump
water from the gutters if it's absolutely necessary, for obvious
reasons. And with that nice grade you have down to the pond,
no reason for pumping it. Reasons it's a bad idea:

Gravity drain is simple, zero energy cost and realiable

You want water going away from the house, not down into the
weeping tile system to add to what's there

If most of the roof water goes to the sump pump, I'm
suprised it can even handle it during a downpour.


I came home one day and found my sump pump runing full blast and still
the basement floor was flooded. Just a little bit but the entire floor
and not deep because all the boxes on the floor had sucked up lots of
water. Much** of the water from my downspouts goes indirectly
into my sump pump but it takes hours or days to get there. It's not
piped direct ly into the sump pump, like Craig's is.. **And much of
the water from the roof and downspouts seeps to the edge of my
property and into the stream bed on two sides of my house.

If power goes out, it's bad enough if the sump pump was
just removing ground water. With the way yours is done,
even if there isn't any ground water flowing into the pit,
if power is lost, the sump pump fails, etc, you're gonna flood
the basement from the roof water. And if it does start to
flood, you could have an enormous amount of water in
no time.

If that were my house, I'd change that ASAP.


Trader's right on everything. They sell battery run sumppumps that
can be hooked in parallel with the 110V pump, but their capacity is
much lower that the 110volt pump.. They sell water-powered pumps that
can also run in parallel, but even the biggest of these has a much
lower capacity.


Where do you live? What's the annual rainfall? What month has the
highest month's rainfall? How much is that?

Unless you live in Death Valley, I think you have a problem. And I
don't think you can rely on the buildre's judgment considering his use
of wood.