On Apr 25, 7:34*am, harry wrote:
On Apr 25, 1:56*am, "Arfa Daily" wrote:









"harry" wrote in message

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On Apr 24, 3:27 pm, "Arfa Daily" wrote:
"harry" wrote in message

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On Apr 19, 11:16 am, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:
Smart meters to save power customers £64 each across Wales, report
says -
19 April 2013

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-22205299

But surely if that is a £64 overpayment you get it back either as a
lump
sum refund or by a £64 reduction in your payments for the next year.
There is *no* £64 overall saving. All you may have lost is the
interest
on £64 but at current *savings*, ie not current account, rates that is
about a quid. More fecking spin...

It also mentions the privacy issues that half hourly or even daily
readings raise.

Warning over smart meters privacy risk - 12 June
2012http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18407340

The default should be readings only required for billing purposes.. As
a
country we have been happy with quarterly readings for a long time...
If
people wish to opt in to a higher frequency of reading then that is
fine
but only as an opt in. With half hour intervals it would be very clear
when the property is actively occupied.

The bills need to have the reading frequency on them as well, so when
you
take over a property you know what you have and can get it changed if
required. I bet there is still a possibilty for the meter to do one
thing
and the billing system to think another though.

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Cheers
Dave.

The real purpose of smart meters is yet to come.
It is as part of a "Smart Grid" that will do lots more including
control of thousands of micro generators.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_grid

That would require some part of the supply industry to make huge
equipment
and infrastructure investments from their profits. Whilst they are being
left alone to fleece the public and trouser huge wads of cash for their
shareholders, as they are currently, that ain't never gonna happen ....

Arfa

Why don't you thonk a smart grid won't help them do this?

It might, but I think that the initial investment to make it happen, would
not sit well with the shareholders

Arfa

The expensive bit is being done right now (installing the smart
meters). The smart grid is just a matter of co-ordinating them.

Grid balancing is the really hard bit, not "just a matter of...".

MBQ