On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 23:25:57 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 22:56:10 -0400, wrote:



Why should anything be mandatory?

So you don't believe people should get paid for the hours worked, if
they get fired, either?

Where did I say that? I didn't.

You don't think getting paid for vacation time earned should be
mandatory. That *WAS* the subject, BTW.


Sure, if earned and part of the employment agreement. If the vacation
is based on time worked on a particular calendar date, you are SOL.
You are supposed to know the terms of employment when you sign on.

At many companies, you get a week after a year of employment. If you
can canned at six months, no vacation pay for time worked.


That's the beaty of the Canadian system. It is "accrued" vacation pay
- which is separate from vacation time. You get the pay after 1 week,
6 months, or a year - 4% of total earned wages.

You only get vacation time after 1 year unless you negotiate
differently with the employer when hired. The employer cannot deny
you the time off, but you can negotiate with the employer if you want
to work 52 weeks per year and just take the cash. LEGALLY you are
supposed to take the 2 weeks time off.


Sure, but why should the employer be able to steal vacation from
someone who's earned it? That *WAS* the issue.

Employer can only steal if time was on the books. see above example.

IN CANADA (at least in ONTARIO, unless you are one of the few exempt
employers, you pay the vacation pay. Part time workers get it on their
weekly cheque - $x dollars an hour times hours + 4% vac pay.

Now I work on contract - so I only get paid what I invoice. No holiday
pay, no benefits, no taxes witheld at source, and no unemployment
insurance . So basically I'm paid like a Yankee, I guess. But I also
get to set my hours (within limits). If the "boss" doesn't like my
hours he is free to contract with someone else - and I'm out of a job
with no recourse. I am "self employed" operating my own business
selling my services to other companies.




Try following the discussion.

The discussion has drifted to many areas or employment, few actually
having to do with the subject line.