On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 22:30:54 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 19:35:57 -0400, wrote:




Why should anything be mandatory?

So you don't believe people should get paid for the hours worked, if
they get fired, either?

Where did I say that? I didn't.

You don't think getting paid for vacation time earned should be
mandatory. That *WAS* the subject, BTW.

Really, if you pay people enough
they can take care of the "benefits" as they see fit. Except that
most people don't have the willpower to save.

Vacation is a benefit to the employer, as well.

But needs and wants vary. Some people like to take long vacations,
others would rather have the money. No reason that the employee can't
have some say in what they do and prefer.

Sure, but why should the employer be able to steal vacation from
someone who's earned it? That *WAS* the issue.

Some work schedules are other people dependent, such as an assembly
line or food service. Other people work independent of each other and
can be more flexible. I know a fellow that worked for a software
company. The rule was: you have to work 240 eight hour days a year.
This is what your pay will be every month.

OK, what's that got to do with the discussion?

The fact that with a system of that sort, there is no overtime, no
lateness, no sick days, no absenteeism, no pay variances, almost no
limit on vacation time other than a 125 day maximum if you work it
right. It empowers the employee to take care of business as he sees
fit.

Try following the discussion.