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On 2/27/2013 11:26 PM, harry wrote:
On Feb 27, 7:19 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 23:45:09 -0800, George Plimpton
wrote:









On 2/26/2013 10:56 PM, harry wrote:
On Feb 26, 6:19 pm, George Plimpton wrote:
On 2/26/2013 9:58 AM, harry wrote:


On Feb 26, 5:23 pm, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:
harry wrote:


On Feb 26, 12:15 am, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:
Attila Iskander wrote:


But that comment again demonstrates how provincial harry's mindset is.
Obviously what works around him has to work just as well ALL OVER the world
It's a holdover from the times when Euros imagined they controlled and were
superior to the rest of the world


Their egos have always outreached their grasp.


True more of the USA than Europe.


The US has never started a world war, but you have two under your
belts. Does: "The sun will never set on the British Empire!" ring any
bells in your tiny belfry? How about your slave trade, where you limeys
brought slaves to your southern plantations, then left us to deal with
the problems when we kicked your syphilis infected carcasses out in that
little spat where a handful of farm boys kicked the **** out of "The
best army in the world"?


You don't know your history.


We do. Brit historical revisionism is funny.


We were having a problem with the French.
When we sorted them out we came back and burned down the white house
and chase you across America.


The War of 1812, a minor conflict of the Napoleonic wars, was not a
victory for either side.


The US started a war with Japan. You cut off their oil resources.


The US did not start a war with Japan. There's that silly Brit
revisionism again.


The US armed forces have never won a war since WW2.


Wrong. The US prevailed militarily in Iraq twice, and in several minor
conflicts. The Brits would have lost in the Falklands if not for the US.


Various forms of gooks beat them all round the world regardless of all
the technology.


The sun did set on the Brit empire, in no small part due to US.


And we have started many "world" wars, all against tyrants.


No Brit war ever was started to fight tyranny.


I can see you're another uneducated Yank.


You're wrong again.


You have not won in Iraq (or Afghanistan.)


We won in Iraq. Twice. Not in rational dispute. Afghanistan looks
bad, but it's not a military defeat; it's a political defeat. The US
has never been militarily defeated. We've gotten into some stupid wars
and lost politically, but never militarily. Not so the Brits.


They have defeated you.


No.


The USA did not exist while we fought European tyrants.


You've never fought European tyrants to fight tyranny.


You lost your empire - pure and simple. You didn't want to lose it, but
you did.


The limp-wristed Brits won't even keep the Falklands for much longer.


Don't see you in Panama or the Philipines.


Correct, because unlike racist Brits, the US believes in
self-determination. Basically, you lost the remnants of your colonial
empire after the second world war because we made you give them up. The
nail was all but driven into the coffin when we forced your pasty doughy
asses out of Suez in 1956. Wikipedia gives one of the results of that
Brit debacle as "End of Britain's role as a Superpower."

If you weren't such wretched ingrates, you'd understand that it was an
act of American benevolence toward the UK.


Be out of Hawaii soon I expect.


Not a chance. Hawaiians are Americans and like it.

You'd be on very slightly stronger footing if you said we'd be out of
Guam or the Northern Mariana Islands or the US Virgin Islands, but not
very much stronger, as there is no pressure on the US to abandon those.
Puerto Rico is always a little up in the air, but of the three main
positions among Puerto Ricans - becoming a US state, independence, or
maintaining the status quo - independence is a decidedly minority position.

Yes, I expect there will be another push to force the UK to relinquish
the Falklands, and the next time it will probably succeed.