On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:57:25 -0800 (PST), bob haller
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On Feb 27, 12:22*pm, harry wrote:
On Feb 27, 1:35*pm, "
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On Feb 27, 2:52*am, harry wrote:

On Feb 27, 12:09*am, wrote:

On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:45:43 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:04:03 -0600, Vic Smith
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:24:06 -0500, wrote:

The price of a Volt puts it totally out of the running. Car and Driver
ran the numbers and said the Cruze was a better deal.

Better deal? *Does that mean everybody should buy the one car that Car
and Driver says is a "better deal?"
+20,000 Volts were sold last year. *According to Forbes, the Volt "is
outselling about half of all cars marketed in the U.S."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorze...ust-chevrolet-...
So your "totally out of the running" is a personal opinion.

I agree the
government bribe may shade that a little but the real cost is just
being foisted off on the people who don't buy a Volt. If everyone
bought one, the rebate simply moves from your car payment to your tax
bill.

The all-electric Nissan Leaf gets more preference with government
incentives than the Volt.
And you probably meant to say "federal and state government bribes."
Many states are kicking in.
http://www.pluginamerica.org/incentives
I noticed a guy in the Volt forum said he got a $6k tax credit from
Colorado to add to the $7.5k from the fed.

So the poor are subsidizing the rich. That sounds right, at least the
way it works here. They also subsidize the people who can afford
$50,000 solar PV arrays.
I am surprised the big business republicans are not really pushing
this. *but maybe they are.

No, it's the big business Democrats who are really pushing this. *Wake
up.

Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor.
In America the rich have always stolen from the poor.
They import poor people for this purpose.- Hide quoted text -

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Dumb as ever. *If by "importing poor people", you mean
Mexicans, they obviously come here because there is
far more opportunity to earn money here than there is
in Mexico. *They come because it makes their life better
for them and their families back in Mexico that they send
money they earn to. *They come because it's a step UP
on the economic ladder for them. *That is how free markets
work.

Then, just like the clueless libs, you assume everything
is static. *That whoever had a low income in 1980, 1990,
2000 still has a low income today. * That of course isn't
true. *People start out at a low paying job and then work
their way up to a better job. *Or start a business. *That is how
it works, at least for those that want to get off their ass. *I just
had two painters over here to give me quotes on painting
a great room and a foyer, *$3,600 - $4,000. *Are you gonna
tell us that skill set is beyond the reach of the common
person? *I could do that job myself in a week. *Do the math
at what income that works out to.

The US economy has always relies on cheap labour.
First it was slaves. *Who had no say in the matter.

Then it was sweatshops for deluded immigrants.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweat_shop

Now it's Mexicans. *They come because the USA has destroyed their
economy.

nope we import the stuff directly from the slave labor of china

Utter nonsense. The unemployment rate in E. China is less than 1%. If
workers don't want to show up for work, they don't. If they're fired,
there's always another job. Companies are moving because the labor
situation is so bad.