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Default Sorta on topic - Cowboy assault rifle?

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 07:32:15 -0600, Richard
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On 2/20/2013 5:05 AM, Gunner wrote:

Or the very very good Fire Sights

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Marlin-FIRE-...-/111013972052


Hey there, that has possibilities!

Looks like the front blade is high enough to sight in the the faster
rounds.

And I do love a good peep show!



Btw...there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Marlin 1894 in 44
Magnum for a utility rifle.

It has nearly the same range as the 3030, ammo is actually cheaper, it
holds significantly more rounds (11) and has very good ballicstics.

44 Mag -125yrds
3030 = 150 yrds

The 1894 is also available in 357 Mag, which means you can also carry
38 Specials in it, though its no where near as potent over 100 yrds as
the 44 mag and the 3030.

Pistol rounds?

Gunner, wake up and slap yourself!
Yer babbling!


You are aware that the 73 was in 44-40...the same caliber as the
pistols that the cowboy carried...right? Know why they would carry a
single cartridge for two different firearms?

Because they were smart. Chuckle.


Its for smaller game in heavy brush country.

I carry the 1894 in 44 mag quite a bit...the 3030 slightly less so as
the 44 mag is simply cheaper to shoot, even with handloads.

If you decide to go with the 3030..the best time to stock up on ammo
is right after deer season when prices (used to) drop to about $8-10
per 20 rds...if you dont hand load your own. (more on that if you are
interested)


Good tip, thanks.
But like I said, I don't intend to reload myself.
Or even shoot reloads, unless they are from someone I trust.
The Marlin Micro-Groove (tm) rifling is reportedly not too happy with
soft lead bullets. Increasing the diameter is supposed to help with
that, but to my mind, I'd rather not take the chance.

Originally I had thought of maybe a 45-70.
But they cost way too much for just plinking.


The 1894 Marlins (most) are rifled with Ballard rifling..not
Microgroove since 2007 or a little before.

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/fr...ve-barrels.htm

As of fall of 2007, Marlin still makes a number of guns that have
Microgroove barrels on them (according to the 2007 Marlin catalog
posted on their website; http://www.marlinfirearms.com/). All of their
..22 LR and .22 Magnum rifles still have Microgroove barrels. The 336s
in .30-30 and .35 Remington are still made with Microgroove barrels,
however the stainless 336XLR in .30-30 and .35 Remington have Ballard
rifled barrels. All of the big-bore Marlin leverguns (e.g. 444, 1895,
etc.) are now fitted with Ballard rifled barrels (both blued and
stainless guns), as are the 1894 and 1895 Cowboy models.
Interestingly, in the 1894 series, the.44 Magnum and .357 Magnum guns
are Ballard rifled, but the .32-20 1894CL and .41 Magnum 1894 FG are
both fitted with Microgroove barrels. "

IE..all the guns that would normally be fired with lead bullets bigger
than 22lr...are now Ballard rifled. A Marlin Microgroove barrel
starts leading at about 1600 fps. Some a litle more..some a little
less...shrug..with normal cast bullets prepared "normally". Yet with
jacketed bullets...well..I have a 3006 carbine I made out of a 98
action with a Marlin Microgroove .30 barrel that can shoot at 3000 fps
all day long and very accurately. Normally grooved barrels.... I start
worrying about leading at about 2200 fps with wheelweight bullets.

Hence Marlin going to Ballard rifling in the arms chambered for big
lead bullet cartridges...IE...444 Marlin, 45-70, 44 Mag, 357 Mag, 45
Long Colt, etc etc

All of my Marlins are pre 2007..all have Microgroove barrels and I do
have to take additional steps to shoot cast bullets in them, so they
dont lead the bores.

Just trying to edumacate you a bit.





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