On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:08:02 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:15:47 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

My roommate has a '97 F250 7.2L gas, XLT 4 door pickup with a starter
problem.

7.5L V-8 gas?


She hits start..the starter solenoid on the fender well clicks..no
start.

I shorted across the primary power leads of the starter solenoid..no
start.

I had her hold the key in the start position and crawled underneith
and shorted across the two big nuts on the starter.... and it started.

Huh? Ford starters normally have one wire only to the starter. Are
you sure this wasn't a Chebby?
F-250, 7.5 engine with a "rebuilt" starter in it. Has two wires...the
small wire controling the starter solenoid and a big one carrying the
load from the "starter relay" on the firewall.

The Ford solenoid (starter relay) is fender-mounted and supplies hot
only when engaged. Crossing the battery cable should have turned it
over if it wasn't a starter problem.


I didnt think at the time to measure the small red wire power to the
solenoid ON the starter and only realized it as I sat down to type
this..damnit. I should know better..sigh

Yeah, the small wire energizes the coil for the bendix. Shorting
between the two large nuts should have -spun- the starter, not started
the truck. Very strange setup.

I was a Ford man but got out of the bidness in '86 with the back
injury.


Assuming there is a start signal TO the bendix solenoid "coil"...can
they be repaired or is a starter replacement required.

I used to be pretty damned good at this sort of thing..the
stroke...shrug


Hell..I cant even remember the name for the coil that drives the
bendix.

That would normally be the starter solenoid. Energizing the coil will
kick the bendix out to engage the ring gear and the contacts at the
back of the solenoid (which are closed by the kick-in) will spin-up
the starter. The way you tested it showed that the solenoid on the
starter is bad. Go with a lifetime-guaranteed rebuilt starter &
solenoid combo from Autozone. I had semi-bad luck with most rebuilds
from most shops until I found those. It's a new solenoid on a rebuilt
starter, with new bushings and freshly turned commutator.


Or am I missing something? This LOOKs like a basic starter with
switch operated solenoid ON the starter...powered by the small red

Huh! Why did Ford go to chebby-style starters?


wire...but come to think of it..that fender mounted solenoid...wtf?

Good question. Backup relay for the starter?!? Has Ford cut their
costs by hiring Chebby engineers? shudder

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1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie