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On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 19:52:18 +0000 (UTC), gregz
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"Tomsic" wrote:
"T. Keating" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 04:31:40 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:

T. Keating wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:55:51 -0600, "HeyBub"
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"[NAPERVILLE, IL] Two vocal opponents of Naperville?Ts initiative to
install
wireless electric meters on homes were arrested this afternoon after
interfering with the installation process... Police are accompanying
crews
this week as they install smart meters at homes that previously sent
away
installers."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...ille/chi-naper...

Who will protect our precious bodily fluids?

The citizens of Naperville have got several valid points.

Privacy..(yet another added risk..)

RF emissions.. (I've seen 900mhz cell phones cause RF burns.. )
* Noteable increases in cell phone linked Brain tumors..
* There is more too this issue which is yet to be documented..
* Prior studies done by cell phone industry don't cut it(bogus testing
conditions),
haven't been updated for newer tech.(higher frequencies, exotic
modulation).
* SM have a fairly high transmit duty cycle, since most of these meters
are set up in
ad-hoc mode, and often relay/forward data between hundreds/thousands of
other customer
meters every few minutes.

Reliability/Safety/Tort.. (Power CO can remotely shutdown/turnon
customer's *power without
leaving a trace). It's only a mater of time before any encryption
protocal deployed is
compromised [Just like WEP, WPA. WPA2(have all been cracked)], and other
people will have
this capability.

Fraud/Tort.. *Smart meters can/are being programmed @ the manufacturer
to deliberately
over charge a large number customers. * It is well known that customers
with PV panels
have been double charged for the energy they supplied to the grid..
Note: This also
affects other non-RE customers to a lessor degree(reactive loads are
being
mismeasured/double charged).

Naperville's bull**** policy of charging 24.95 a month to read a
non-smart meter is
bogus..
Let the homeowner read his/her meter each month, and submit the data on
a web page..
Every year or two.. the power co can confirm it..simple,easy, cheap..

P.S. *I also refused the installation of one these Bogus smart meters.
But I did my
homework, and talked to GE's field engineering rep about the
capibilities and ordering
options of the meters being installed.

*Thank god.. I don't live in Naperville, or I would be dragiing these
City officials into
court myself.

Put a cell phone 1/4 inch from head and you get a power level depending on
your tower strength. Put it 12 inches away, and it's down 100 times less.
Two feet 400 times less. Four feet 1600 times less.

Not really... The peak field reading drop off is a function of 1/2
wavelength(15.6cm
@900mhz), propogation speed through various mediums, and antenna
configuration(some where
between inverse squared, and inverse cubed.).

Ah, the inverse square law tweaked -- love it.

Tomsic

I got an antenna on my water meter inside the house in my laundry. They
installed that couple years ago. New meter said to sense low flow much
better. How common is this ?

In your laundry room? *Not common at all. *I believe it's unique
(perhaps even very unique). *;-)

A water meter with an antenna? *Very common. *"Smart meters" are used
nationwide. *I had one in my previous house, though I haven't a clue
where it was. *Never looked. *I probably have one in this house, too,
though I don't care where it is. *Paying people to read meters is
expensive.- Hide quoted text -

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The Naperville water meters are inside at the entrance point of water
through the basement walls. *A cable runs from the water meter to a
small box on the outside of the house that is the actual transmitter.
It is about as big as a package of cigarettes. *In our case, the
nearest human activity is 3 or 4 feet away in the basement or outside,
except when I cut the grass and am within 1 foot of the transmitter.
But that is for a few seconds 39 times in a year, so I am not too
worried about rf exposure, especially since I do use a cellphone and
worked on Electromagnetic Compatiblity for Bell Laboratories for about
44 years.

around here the water company totally elminated meter readers, kinda
sad one was HOT

automating reading saves big bucks