On Jan 25, 8:20*pm, Rifleman wrote:
" wrote:
"All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and
have at least one military featu pistol grip; forward grip;
folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or
rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel."

The above should be more than enough to convince any
reasonable person what a complete moron she is. *So,
a rifle without a threaded barrel is just peachy keen.
But put a threaded barrel on it and it's banned. * WTF?
Threads kill people? * Same insanity with grips.
Like banning a pistol grip is going to make a substantial
difference in any of the recent shootings?

Not being a gun owner (the closest I've ever come to firearms is when I
see them from a distance on shelves inside Gander Mountain or Bass Pro)
maybe you can explain something:

Say that there are people that are thinking of buying their first rifle
(for what-ever reason they think they might use it for) and they walk
into a gun store or browse a catalog, and they DON't see any rifles
along the lines described in the above list of banned guns (banned
because the law went into effect, and rifles with those features are no
longer legal).

So they don't see any rifles with "military features" - pistol grip,
threaded barrel, rocket launcher, etc.

Will those people walk away - and not make a purchase because the rifles
that are available to them do not appeal to what they had in mind when
they walked into the store?

In other words - they wanted to buy a "military-looking" rifle, but not
seeing any for sale - they instead spent their money on something else
(video game, iCrap, their next mortgage payment, etc) ???

I seem to recall the issue being that these new laws
were gonna prevent the next mass shooting. I might be
wrong, but I don't think you can achieve a mass shooting
with a video game. You can however achieve it with
the same gun, minus the threaded barrel, which will still
be available for legal purchase by a skunk out to commit
the next murder.






Don't you think that is the real reason for prohibiting the sale of guns
and rifles with certain characteristics - to alter the choices that the
"casual" or "rambo-man-new gun owner" has available to him, to "water
down" the choices, such that only the bland, non-cool-looking guns are
left (which are still perfectly fine for shooting bullets) - so you have
a certain class or type of buyer that is turned off by what's available
- and they decide not to buy. *?

No, it's clearly not the intent at all. Did you read my post?
NY state had a 10 round limit on magazines. They had an
assault weapons ban. They just passed even MORE restrictions
including a 7 round limit on magazines. THAT clearly show
that they are out to SCREW legal gun owners. If you went
into any gun store in the USA, probably 90% of all the pistols
they are selling have magazines that exceed 7 rounds.
Your going to tell me that a gun with 7 rounds is peachy
keen, but one with 10, or 15 is suddenly significantly more
dangerous? Or that the same rifle, minus a threaded barrel
or with a different stock is going to make a difference?

How long do you think it takes a typical shooter to change
a magazine and resume shooting? I think most folks who
don't have a gun think it must involve taking the gun apart
with tools. It doesn't. Instead of showing up
with a 15 round, he shows up with ten 7 round ones. What
does that solve? But in NY if you have a greater than 7 round
magazine, you have a year to get rid of it, or else YOU are
the criminal. The real objective here is 15, 10, 7, 3, 0....