In message , polygonum
writes
On 20/01/2013 03:30, geoff wrote:

I want to properly knead dough like the new bread makers don't seem to
be able to

I found out that my brother has "inherited" my mother's kenwood chef, so
I'm on the lookout for one


Not sure what you are trying to achieve here.

For me, I did have a fling with bread-maker and it was fun and quite
nice. Very much depended on exact flour and recipe - small differences
had quite an effect - but under-kneading never seemed to be an issue.


I find that bread made with a bread maker always come out with a bit of
a "cakey" consistency. To make good (to my taste) you need strong whiter
flour and plenty of kneading to "draw" the strands of gluten. This gives
it a "bready" rather than "cakey" consistency

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geoff