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Default Cable modem TV antenna experiment

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:29:05 -0800, mike wrote:

On 1/11/2013 10:17 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:06:53 -0800, (Dave Platt)
wrote:

Rather than trying to relay the cable signal via antennas (which would
in effect be creating an unlicensed TV transmitter, and could cause
all sorts of legal and technical grief) you'd be better off setting up
an 802.11 bridge. A 1000-foot link is definitely possible with a gain
antenna on each end, if you have a clear line of sight between the two
houses. That sort of solution would be legal, as long as you
pick 802.11 radio-and-antenna systems which have been properly
certificated. Ubiquiti is one vendor of these sorts of devices.


I just came back from a very similar install. 800ft using two Ubiquti
Nanostation Loco M5. The M5 is the 5.7Ghz version, not the 2.4GHz
version. The main application was shared internet access, but also to
stream a common media server for HD movies via wireless.


Maybe I just missed it. Could you repeat the total customer cost number
for the install including the links at both ends and installation?


Actually, I haven't added it up yet. Note that this system is for
sharing internet, not remote video.

Prices are off the top of my head as I'm too lazy to look them up and
the pile of receipts are scattered all over my office.
http://www.ubnt.com/airmax#nanostationm

Quan Item Unit cost Exten cost
2 Ubiquity Nanostation Loco M5 $ 90 $180
2 Mounting brackets $ 8 $ 16
1 100ft CMXT (gel filled) CAT5 $ 10 $ 10
2 Through the wall hardware $ 10 $ 20
1 Linksys E2500 wireless router $ 35 $ 35
1 Power strips, wall plates, RJ45 plugs, $ 20 $ 20
sinkers, "P" clamps, etc.
1 Satellite TV "J" mount $ 20 $ 20
===========
Total $301
Add about 12% for sales tax and shipping.
Add about $40/ea for Nanostation M5 HP, if you need more range.
The Linksys E2500 is for redistributing the internet inside the
house on both 2.4 and 5.6Ghz. It is setup as an access point, not as
a router. Price is for a refurb on eBay while retail would be about
$65.

To add remote video, add a Slingbox for $180:
http://www.slingbox.com/go/slingbox-350
and a 2nd CATV digital receiver for whatever the local cable company
charges. Currently, video from the DLNA video server is being watched
on a Roku 2 XS streaming media player:
http://www.dlna.org
http://www.roku.com/roku-products

The internet connection is wireless via Etheric networks in an area
where both cable and DSL are not available. Previous experience with
satellite internet was deemed a waste of money:
http://ethericnetworks.com/service-plans/residential-broadband/
At about $180/month, sharing the cost is certainly a good idea.

I haven't worked out the charges yet. Ignoring several diversions and
stupid mistakes (including getting a cardio workout by chasing the
escaped house cat through the bushes for about 15 minutes), and since
the owner did all the endpoint preperation, I'll probably only charge
for 3 hrs at $75/hr = $225 in labor. About half of that is
preperation, ordering, travel time, and RTFM, which were not directly
involved in the actual installation.

I'll be going back later to add some ethernet lightning arrestors
which did not arrive in time. When the smoke clears, I would guess
that the total will be about $600 for everything including the inside
network, wiring, configuration, SNMP monitoring setup, "training",
system documentation, backups, and of course testing by watching about
15 minutes of a movie on Netflix.

If you do it thyself, it can be done with zero labor cost, scounged
hardware, wire scraps, and used equipment for some savings.

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Jeff Liebermann

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