On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:29:51 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:50:32 -0500, wrote:
Your logic, well, isn't. Does Canada have the gang-bangers of
Chicago?

Don't know much about Chicago gang-bangers so can't comment, but we
certainly have gangs in Canada and in Toronto where I live. They're
just as prone to kill each other and bystanders as any other gang.
That truth is evidenced by a number gang killings in the 2012 year.
Easy to confirm by doing a news search.

Obviously not as bad as Chicago; more than 500 deaths this year alone.
That's in a city where guns are *already* illegal.