On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:59:52 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:55:14 +0000 (UTC), James Waldby
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:48:08 -0500, Ned Simmons wrote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:02:53 -0800, Gunner
wrote:
Everything above..Ive used in some of the coldest badlands in the US
and survived quite nicely. I grew up in an area that the average
winter temp during the day..was -20F..on a warm day. And Ive seen it
-80F with a good wind blowing.

Grew up in Barrow AK? There's no place in the continental US where
the "average winter temp during the day" is -20F.

True, but in northern Minnesota and Michigan that often is the average
temperature for individual days. I happened to visit southern MN for a
couple of winter months ca. 1970, and there was a week where the high
temperature was -30F. Made the tractors sound kind of interesting when
starting up cold. During the '80s every northern MN winter had at least
a few days of -40 to -45 temperatures; I think it's gotten a bit milder
there in recent years, although things like -54F in 2005 and -57F in 1996
still happen.

http://weather-warehouse.com/WeatherHistory/PastWeatherData_Embarrass_Embarrass_MN_January.htm l


Ayup.

then there is snow fall "averages" as well. Growing up in Michigans
UP...average snow fall per winter is 220 inches. A bit more than 20
feet. Fortunately..it tends to pack down a bit.

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.c...in-n-michigan/

http://icons-ak.wunderground.com/dat...owLvr/1092.jpg

http://kstp.com/kstpImages/DeerDeepSnow.JPG

http://www.jaxrabbit.com/images/Weather01.jpg

http://csumc.wisc.edu/exhibit/Heikki...p_image011.jpg

http://csumc.wisc.edu/exhibit/Heikki...line/2006.html

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11780965@N06/5024563781/

G

Ooh Noo! nonono!


http://amysangster.com/wp-content/up...9/moresnow.jpg

Oui, moremoremore!


Shrug...which is why I now live in Californias high desert.

Where your vehicle sinks only 6" into the asphalt if you pull over on
the highway in the summer... You moved from Fort Frozen Swamp to Fort
Stinkin Desert, sir.

--
You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore
the consequences of ignoring reality.
--Ayn Rand