On Dec 29, 2:34*pm, "
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On Dec 29, 5:23*am, harry wrote:









On Dec 28, 9:32*pm, "
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On Dec 28, 1:31*pm, harry wrote:

On Dec 28, 4:28*pm, "
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On Dec 28, 11:15*am, wrote:

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 00:26:18 -0800 (PST), harry

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At the time of the Me262 we were flying the Meteor.

We are not talking about experimental aircraft. The ME 262 was
operational

Yes, those Britts were the masters of aviation. *They
transfered all that superiority into products like the Comet.
Remember that? *That was back in the 50's and the end
of the Britts as aviation wizards. * Funny how today Boeing and Airbus
rule the roost. *Even the last great attempt in aviation by
the Britts went down in flames.....Concorde. *How much
money was lost on that fiasco?

Concorde was more successful than the space shuttle.

The essential difference was the space shuttle was
never intended to be a commercial operation that made
a profit. *BTW, where's the *UK shuttle? *UK moon landing?

"The first official British space programme began in 1959 with the
Ariel series of British satellites, built in the USA and the UK and
launched using American rockets. The first British satellite, Ariel 1,
was launched in 1962.

During the 1960s and 1970s, a number of efforts were made to develop a
British satellite launch capability. A British rocket named Black
Arrow did succeed in placing a single British satellite, Prospero,
into orbit from a launch site in Australia. Prospero remains the only
British satellite to be put into orbit using a British vehicle."

Ao much for British superiority.

Let's see, that went down in flames a few times.

The space shuttle was *not* carrying paying passengers trying to get
from Europe to the USA.

it was some junk fell off a Yank aircraft that caused the Concorde
crash.

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Yes, the flaming crash that finally put the Concorde out of it's
misery. * *The economic crash had been going on
for decades. *It never made a profit, despite charging $12,000 for
a ticket for a cramped seat. * For that price, one could get a
jabba the hut size seat on a Boeing 777, more like your own
personal little cabin. *Hell, I had 3 whole windows all to myself,
a desk to work at, and a seat that reclined into a full bed.
And that American marvel went from JFK to Hong Kong, non-stop
over the north pole. * The Concorde would have run out of fuel
less than half way there.

Your space program was wholly run by an ex Nazi rocket scientist
kidnapped from Germany.
Werner von Braun.
When he died the program went into failure mode.
Because Americans weren't smart enough.

We were smart enough to get von Braun and a long list of other
German scientists. * Apparently you Britts were not.



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No, Boeing didn't fail. *That program was a govt funded boondoggle.
They never even finished one prototype before it became obvious that
due to the obvious cost issues, it would never be commercially
successful. *The govt cancelled it. *And obviously it was the right
decision. *You Britts and the French chose to go full steam ahead,
piling up huge losses every single year for another 30 years. *Now,
who
are the smart ones again?

The Space shuttle was more costly to run than the Saturn five. So
don't let on you are financial wizards.
It was all to do with the Flash Gordon syndrome.
Another Hollywood fiasco.
The Yanks had to borrow a Concordski from the Russiansto find out how
it was done.