On Dec 12, 11:30*pm, micky wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:19:44 -0800 (PST), DD_BobK
wrote:









On Dec 12, 9:50 pm, micky wrote:
What is the donut/conical thing that serves the purpose of a flapper
called?

I'm trying to tell a young friend how to fix his toilet, which won't
stop running.

Although the toilet looks new, the guts are old I guess and built
differently from any toilet I've seen, and I don't even know the names
of the parts to find replacement parts.

It doesn't have a flapper. Instead the big vertical tube that has the
thinner flexiblef filler tube going to it (what's the big tube
called?) has surrounding it a doughut shaped version of the flapper,
mounted at the bottom end of another vertical tube (that also
surrounds the first one). This outer vertical tube is lifted at its
top by the arm that is connected to the toilet handle. No chain is
used.

What is the name of the doughnut/conical shaped thing that serves the
purpose of the flapper? Or the doughnut/outer-tube combination?

Do they still sell replacement parts for something like this?

If not, and I need to replace the filler tube, the vertical plastic
tube that most toilets have, do I really have to remove the tank from
the toilet?

Thanks

Here's a completed auction for one...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Vintage-...-Ball-Rubber-F...

fyi
On 12/8/1930, a U.S. federal trademark registration was filed for
PIGNOSE. This trademark is owned by KIRKHILL, INC.,
DOWNEY, CA , 90241. The USPTO has given the PIGNOSE trademark serial
number of 71308735.

Thanks a lot, esp. for the patent number, but that's not it.

I've given up looking online for the one it has, and I'm goiug to have
to replace the whole flush valve and put in one with a flapper.

But I'm going to describe it again, and try to do a better job, so
you'll see how wierd the one it has now is.

This one (call it a stopper) *is at the end of, a plastic tube a
little more than an inch in diameter, and it has a hole in it (a
little bigger than the tube) *that surrounds the tube, and both the
tube and the stopper (the equivalent of a pignose or a flapper, except
it has a hole in the middle) * surround another tube about an inch in
diameter, which is centered above the hole that goes to the toilet
bowl.

The house is about 50 years old and I assume this is the original
mechanism. despite how new thte toilet looks. .

How about a photo?