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On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 22:28:07 -0600, " Attila Iskander"





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On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 07:03:43 -0500, "Meanie" wrote:

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On 12/4/2012 8:30 PM, Meanie wrote:
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On Dec 4, 8:27 pm, Metspitzer wrote:
I was talking on the phone with my cousin today. She has worked as a
substitute teacher in several schools. She is between jobs. One of
the things she mentioned was that they require her to furnish her SSN
on job applications. Since the wrong person could do some serious
damage with your SSN, I really think it is a bad idea to have to
furnish them for a job application.

How is a prospective employer supposed to do
any kind of background checks without even a
SS #? *It's typically asked for when applying for a
loan, credit card, apartment rental, hospital visit,
etc. *So, I don't see the issue as being unique
or unreasonable in regard to employment.

Financial institutes, leasing agencies, medical facilities, etc. all
require
financial payment for services and/or goods. They require the need to
check
credit history to ensure they deal with a financially responsible
person
so
they can get paid. An employer does not and simply pays the employee to
do a
job. If anything, the applicant should check the history of the
employer
to
ensure they've never had problems with payroll. There is no need for an
employer to seek SSN....period.

I am retired now but one of the first things that we did when someone
applied for employment was to run their SS# against the ones that were
already on file for current employees. You might find it surprising but
several times that SS# was already being used by one of our employees.
We
then had to find out if the current employee was the actual owner of
that
SS# or if the applicant was or neither of them was.

Now that opens a new light and I can see the reason. BUT, I still can't
see
why they cannot wait to do that if/after they hire the person. Yes, it may
avoid a minor hassle of hiring and paperwork, but it isn't difficult, IMO,
to simply move on to the runner up applicant.

Because they're not going to do a pre-employment background check
*after* they hire. *sheesh!

Your right

I even took a few English courses in grade school.

* *Instead they'll do a post-conditional-offer employment check with the
final offer conditional on the results
See how simple that is

No, they won't. *They'll pass on your sorry ass for someone who will
follow instructions.

What some people seem to forget

...that they want a job? *You probably have forgotten that.- Hide quoted text -



I agree with you on this one. Especially with 8%
unemployment and if you want a job. So many places
have your SS# anyway and like you say, why would you
want to work for an employer that you don't trust with a
SS#?

As for the argument that it makes no difference to make
the offer, then get the SS# and do a background check,
how about this:

You're the hiring guy. Which scenario would you prefer?
A guy fills out the application with his SS#. You use it
to run a background check and it turns out he's a member
of the Cripts, convicted of drug dealing and multiple drive-bys.
You tell him you filled the position internally and thanks for
applying.

Scenario two. You don't get the SS# until you've
extended your job offer, contingent on him supplying
the SS#. Now you have to call him and tell him he's not
getting the job you offered him 2 days ago and why.