On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:57:13 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 05:03:37 -0800 (PST), "
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On Nov 25, 1:05Â*pm, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 08:09:11 -0800 (PST), "

wrote:
Yep. As far as cars go if it were left up to the market place we
would still be driving cars getting 18 mpg at best with zero safety
equipment.

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If the market is incapable of innovation, then how
exactly do you explain the cell phone, PC, cordless drill,
and all the other items that have a long history of innovation
that has driven cost down, increased features, etc?

There are differences. Â*The marketplace needs innovation that can be
seen. Â*Take a poll and I bet 95% would choose a Smart phone over a Cat
converter in their car.


You can't see a difference in your energy bill? When I
replaced my 25 year old furnace, my energy bill was cut
by almost half.

Sure, I can see it, mine is down 39%. But the problem is, people
don't "see" it until the job is done and money spent. They see fancy
doo-dads and that is what they are easily sold. There are many ways
of constructing a house that is greatly more energy efficient, yet
most are build the same way they have been for 200+ years. Would you
build with SIPS or ICF's? How many houses built that way are you
aware of? Many builders are unaware of them, consumers even less so.
A friend locally built a house with sips - that he designed and
built. Had one heck of a time getting the building department to OK
his plans till he drove his truck up one of the walls as a ramp to
demonstrate the strength of the panel.. This was 20 some years ago.