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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:509d54d8$0$33469
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote:

Alternate energy anybody?

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"HeyBub" wrote:

Er, no. No one in their right mind would consider "alternate" energy
for wide-scale use.

Here's just one example:

The amount of radiation energy falling on the surface of the earth
is
about 3 kw per sq meter. At the equator. At noon. With no clouds.

To power California (50+ GW) with 50% efficient solar collectors,
and
adjusting for 12 hours of darkness, latitude, clouds, etc., we find
we'd need a solar collector farm the size of the Los Angeles basin.
About 1200 sq miles.

Can you imagine the cost to install and maintain such a monstrosity?

The only way to improve these numbers is to move the orbit of the
earth closer to the sun.

The good news, however, is that residents of Los Angeles would be
living in the shade.

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"Han" wrote:

Aren't a good proportion of the homes in LA simple 1 or 2-story
dwellings? Then applying PV shingles or panel collectors could take
a
lot of that at least there. And the sunnier areas of CA could
supply the
rainier ones. But I have NOT done the math. And indeed night time
is a
bummer for PV.

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"Alternate energy" is not limited to solar.

Geo-thermal, hydro and wind are also "Alternate energy" sources.

Natural gas as a "bridge" fuel for buses and 18 wheeler fleets for
the next 20-30 years is a reality.

The Long Beach/Los Angeles port authority is moving forward with
a multi billion $ expansion. Only N/G fueled trucks will be allowed
in the port area when completed.

Not only is N/G more cost effective as a motor fuel but air pollution
is
significantly reduced.

Yes, most of the L/A basin consists of buildings of 3 stories or less.

BTW, the local utility, (Southern California Edison), has a low cost
solar package available for customers whose electric bill is
$150/month minimum.

SFWIW, almost 20% of SCE's power is already provided by solar
with more capacity under construction.

"HeyBub", time to pull your head out of your ass and smell the roses.

Lew


Roses? Waht about this flower?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...phallus_Wilhel
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Han
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