Nil wrote:

Anyone can have multiple ES accounts and get them by using
throw-away e-mail accounts, and they can change their posting
identity at will just as easily on ES as they can on AIOE.

It means they try to control abuse. aioe doesn't try and they
don't act on complaints.

As a matter of fact - AIOE does act on complaints.

But your idea of "abuse" is likely a free-speech issue, and not pure
machine-generated commercial spam or links to malware.

The AIOE server is connected to URIBL which means it automatically
blocks any posts that contain spammed domains. The AIOE server
has limits on the number of posts that can originate from a given
IP address within a 24 hour period.

Not very effective against abusers.

Again, what most people would consider to be usenet abuse is
machine-generated spam and malware links, or sporge floods, and it is
EXACTLY those sorts of posts that are ****-canned by the methods that
AIOE has in place.

And they can open a new account within seconds. Why is that
so hard for you to understand?

And they can be closed within seconds. Why is that so hard for
you to understand?

In order for a new account to be "closed within seconds" you need to go
through another complaint-reporting cycle. Not likely to be able to do
that in such a short period of time, and certainly not until there are
new posts made using new credentials.

Google is the king of usenet abuse. If you've got an axe to grind
against someone for ****ing up usenet, it should be google groups.

Nice straw man ya got there.

Nice avoidance of a relevant point ya pulled there.

- what the hell has that got to do with someone asking for a
recommendation as to what free servers are available?

I recommend eternal-september. I don't recommend aioe. The point
seems obvious to me.

No, it's not obvious.

From a technical pov, AIOE works just as well as a news server as ES.
You can't put up a technical argument why ES is better than AIOE.

You obviously have a free-speech issue, and you seek to denigrate any
server that is SUPERIOR in allowing or facilitating free speech because
you refuse to give an example of what you consider abuse.