On Sep 11, 9:03*pm, "
wrote:

but you still have not
elaborated on all those cases, have you?

What cases.


The cases that form your basis for claiming that unemployment
insurance is not limited at all for those that quit their job.
Ed provided his experience going to unemployment hearings
in two different states. You claimed his experience is irrelevant.
We're waiting to hear YOUR experience, where if one just
quits their job, unemployment is available and "not limited at all".



I simply state the facts. *You *are* a liar.

Typical.





Only because you lie. *I never said EVERYONE who quits is eligible. *I said
it's not as limited as you pretend.

Everyone can judge for themselves who the liar is. Here is
exactly what you said:

KRW:

""My objection is that it is *not* a very limited circumstance.
There
are good
reasons that one would quit, or be fired, that are beyond the
employee's
control. Those cases *ARE* eligible for UI. It is *not* limited at
all."

If unemployement compensation is " *not* limited at all",
then it would indeed be available to anyone and everyone
who quits, including those who quit just because they
don't want to work anymore.





but no elaboration, no citing of all those unlimited cases where people quit their
job and collect unemployment.

Another lie.

From above, in your own words:

"What cases?" when I asked for elaboration of your experience
with all those "not limited at all" cases.





You really lack communication
skills and the ability to interact with others. *You must have a
tough life as a result, perhaps that's why you're so bitter and
unable to accept yes for an answer.

Another lie but there is nothing surprising here.

Not a lie and it seems to be the perception of a growing number of
long
time posters here.






You didn't say that it wasn't "extremely limited". *You specifically
said
"It is *not* limited at all". * The asterick emphasis is yours, as you
are
so fond of doing. *Now I don't know what universe YOU live in, but
in mine, when something is not limited at all, then it means it is
available to everyone, therefore anyone who quits there job is
elligible
for unemployment.

"Not very limited" doesn't mean there are no limits. *Moron.


Now everyone can judge for themselves who the liar and moron
is. In your own words above, you DID NOT SAY "It's not very
limited." YOU SAID:

"It is *not* limited at all" The emphasis with astericks is yours.


So here you are lying about what you actually said. You are now
trying to dig yourself out of your own hole by inserting the word
"very" which totally changes the meaning.

That makes YOU the liar. And I'd say you're also pretty dumb
to try to pull that off when what you said is there in black and
white.





And I'm the one that's stupid and a liar?

Certainly. *You've done nothing buy lie here.

Ed's a liar?

If I said it, yes. *I recall him being *wrong* but not specifically lying,
continuously, like you.

Four other people have participated in this segment of
the thread. *And their opinions range from you are wrong, to you
are a troll. * Not one agrees with you.

Lefties hanging on your posts to throw a stone. *Yawn.


And that's why some of those here call you a troll and others
like me lost all respect for you long ago. Just because
none of the five people agree with you and you've lost the argument,
which has nothing to do with politics, you start calling them all
lefties? You really do have issues.




*In fact, I stated that it was based on circumstances; if the
termination was not at the fault of the employee, he was eligible for UI.

We are talking about employees who QUIT.

Same. *Termination fired. *If the circumstances are beyond their control,
they *are* eligible for UI.


It's not the same. Of the people collecting unemployment at
this moment, the vast majority, a huge percentage of them,
are getting it because they were fired due to business
conditions. A small percentage of that total are workers who
quit and had a damn good reason why, eg unsafe working
conditions, discrimination, harrassment. Virtually none of
them are getting it where the reason is they just don't want
to work anymore.
Quitting because they don't want to work anymore are the
exact words Ed used. According to one of your very clear
statements that I cited above, unemployment is
not limited at all for them. That means they could walk into
an unemployment office and say "I quit that job because I
just didn't want to work anymore" and they would collect.

But not in my world, not in Ed's world, not in the real world.



How many of
those, in your experience, then qualify for unemployment?

I know a few hundred to a few thousand.


At the beginning of this thread you said "What cases?"
because I suggested that rather than call people morons and
lefties, it would be better for your case to cite the experiences
you are talking about. "What cases?" implies they don't
exist. Now here you are bringing up hundreds to a few thousand
again. And I'm the liar? You can't even keep your story
straight, which is a problem that liars have, isn't it?



Ed stated those cases are very limited.

He first stated that it wasn't possible (for either someone who has been fired
or quit), which is wrong. *It's not very limited at all. *One test.

That in dealing with
many unemployment cases in two states he never saw an
employee who quits collect.

Self-selected sample. *He only dealt with cases where there was a question.

You disparaged that experience
as not relevant.

Since his experience is not (cannot be) universal, his experience is
irrelevant. *One case proves him wrong.

Yet we have not heard YOUR experience at
all. * Sure there are some very
limited cases where an employee can collect. *I even gave
you some examples. *I provided links to NY and OH state
unemployment that discuss the limited cases where you
MIGHT still be able to collect.

Tens of thousands of cases is not "very limited".

You on the other hand just a post ago stated:

" Those cases *ARE* eligible for UI. *It is *not* limited at all."

Which is correct.

Which is a blatant lie. The situations where you can quit
your job and then collect are in fact limited. I've given you
links to OH and NY state unemployment websites that
show exactly that.

Everyone can read the thread and judge for themselves who
the liar is. Who is right. Who is the poster that goes off the
rails, refuses to accept yes for an answer. And who quickly
descends into calling everyone who disagrees with him a
moron or leftist. Actually they have already done that. Of
the 5 or 6 people in the thread, not one agrees with you.
The opinions range from you are wrong, to that you're just
an argumentative troll with issues.