FACT CHECK: Convention speakers stray from reality
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 06:02:52 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:
On Sep 7, 11:40*pm, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:51:35 -0400, wrote:
No, I certainly am not. *You aren't hearing *reason for*. *Either
(being fired and quitting) **may* be eligible for UI, depending on the
reasons behind it. *If the employee is not at fault (meaning the
reasons are beyond his control), the MAY STILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR UI. Got
it?
They are two very different things.
Ed started the controversy here about under what conditions
you can receive UI if you QUIT. *His point was that if you just
quit your job, except in limited circumstances, you are NOT
elligible for UE.
No, that is *NOT* what the issue is about. *He stated, only backed up
by his very limited experience, that you could *not* get UI if you
were fired or quit. *This is simply not true.
Well, at least one of the two of you read what I wrote.
From my 9/3 post:
Very limited circumstances. Not if you quit because you don't wish to
work any more.
That's the problem with krw. He can't take yes for an answer.
First you said that a person who quits can't collect unemployment
insurance. That is true in the vast majority of cases. krw, objected
and you quickly clarified it, saying you meant that they can't collect
except in very limited circumstances and not if they just don't wish
to work any more. That is consistent with my
experience. It's consistent with your experience.
It's also consistent with the links provided to NY and CT state
unemployment and krw's own link.
My objection is that it is *not* a very limited circumstance. There are good
reasons that one would quit, or be fired, that are beyond the employee's
control. Those cases *ARE* eligible for UI. It is *not* limited at all.
Yet instead of accepting your clarification, or perhaps discussing
what exceptions he believes people are using, he continues arguing
as if you never made the clarification, with short replies of
a few words and then starts attacking me and calling me an idiot
and moron for agreeing with you.
Sadly, it's not unusual behavior for him. I wonder if he treats those
he deals with in person the same way?
You simply read what you want to see.
I've gone to many unemployment hearings in two different states *No
one that has ever quit from the company ever got benefits. *Nor has
anyone that was fired since it is always with cause and proven. *- Hide quoted text -
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But Ed, hasn't krw told you that your experience is irrelevant? Now
krw's experience, that of course is relevant. Funny thing though,
rather than tell us exactly what that experience is, he's hurling
insults.
Your experience is *very* limited. There is no question about that.
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