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Default Official. Fear of radiation kills more people than radiation

harry wrote:
On Aug 30, 9:07 am, Martin Brown
wrote:
On 30/08/2012 08:33, dennis@home wrote:



"harry" wrote in message
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The reason nobody died of radiation poisoning at Fukushima is that the
population was moved out pronto. As simple as that.

No it isn't as simple as that. The dose rate even in the hot spots would
only shorten life by a few years except for an unlucky few that got a
hot alpha emitting particle in their lungs and/or smoke.

Even the workers inside the plant did not get acute radiation injuries
they mostly slipped on twisted metal or were injured by debris from
*chemical* explosions caused by build up of hydrogen gas. eg

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/1237...kushima-daiich...

By comparison the criticality splash up at Tokaimura killed two
operators from immediate acute radiation sickness, and gave one a
seriously life shortening zap and 120 people were above 1mSv dose.

If it was as safe as you seem to think, the could have stayed at home.
That is the whole point, they could have stayed at home.

Some areas needed to be evacuated and some were not evacuated in a
timely fashion so that hot rain fell on them. It wasn't all that hot in
the general scheme of things but it was a lot more than civilians are
supposed to be exposed to routinely. Therein lies the problem.

The difficulty is with hot airborne particles that can get into the
lungs. You can survive a lot better with filtered air. Blocking
radioactive iodine uptake in people is also important early on.

The authorities chose to move people away because they were unsure what
would happen next and whether a major containment breach with massive
releases of radiation was in progress. They were in a no win situation.

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So the "authorities" were unsure yet wehave all these experts here
think you could have a picnic right next door?


perhaps unlike those authorities we dont have to confirm to public
pressure, fear of losing jobs if we get it wrong and face.


So you are saying things could have been a lot worse?


No. I think they were probably as bad as that deign of reacrtor could be
- maybe if they had run away and left iot it might have been all four
nits sloshing muck around,.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ia/Conditions-
at-Fukushima-Plant-Improve-But-Return-Home-Will-Take-Years.html


You dont honestly expect neutral unbiased reporting from the NY times do
you? And that is 8 months out of date.

Think Daily mail with a Guardian readserhsip...

SOME parts of the exclusion zone are already accessible though people
aren't allowed to stay permanently. Which is pretty stupid considering
the stupidly low levels of radiation. 10mSv/yr

(Dartmoor is 30-60mSv/yr)

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/up...200x534%29.jpg

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