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Default Official. Fear of radiation kills more people than radiation

On 29/08/2012 09:55, Jo Stein wrote:
Den 29.08.2012 07:39, skrev harry:
On Aug 29, 5:54 am, Jo Stein wrote:
On 29.08.2012 03:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:



http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/RS..._of_Fukushima_...



...
"If we took a 'do more good than harm' approach I suspect we
would abandon forced evacuation altogether, especially where
iodine tables are available"

This is quite correct. How do we cure this misery? By education.
When you write about radiofobia you must always tell people how to
get cured:http://www.radiationandreason.com/ For more than half a
century the view that radiation represents an
extreme hazard has been accepted. This book challenges that view
by facing the question How dangerous is ionising radiation?
Briefly the answer is that radiation is about a thousand times
less hazardous than suggested by current safety standards.

http://www.youtube.com/user/RadiationAndReason
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9094430/The-world-has...

As Wade Allison, emeritus professor of physics at Oxford
University,
says: €œThe reporting of Fukushima was guided by the Cold War
reflex that matched radiation with fear and mortal danger.
Reactors have been destroyed, but the radiation at Fukushima has
caused no loss of life and is unlikely to do so, even in the next
50 years. The voices of science and common sense on which the
future of mankind depends were drowned out and remain to be
heard, even today. The result has been unnecessary suffering and
great socio-economic damage.€

...
Well would you move your family into the zone? By how much has
people's lives been shortened? I hear the fish are now radioactive
around the NW coast of Japan . Marie Curie died of radiation induced
cancer.

This is all government propaganda so they can build nuclear reactors
(and collect backhanders)

I think we agree that The Natural Philosopher is crazy as he is a
climat denialist. He suffer from a delusion. Your delusion is also
very bad. It looks similar to the propaganda we hear from climate
denialist when they tell us that we cannot trust scientists.


The greens and antigreens do very much the same sort of deliberate
misrepresentation of the facts but with opposite spins.

I would have no problem moving my family into the zone. I can read
and I understand the book written by prof. emeritus Wade Allison.
The big problem facing the world today is green idiots like you.
Because of your ignorance we are unable to solve the big problem
facing us, how to get rid of dirty energy production.


Coal fired power stations actually emit more radioacivity into the
environment from burning coal than a nuclear plant is allowed to!

Not only the fish is radioactive, also harry is radioactive.
I guess you are fat as stupid people also tend to be fat.
Then you have about one billion Bq in your body because of
natural radiation. Yes, one billion. I have about 610 000 000
ionizations in my body per second. Pleaase, go and learn how
we are designed to tolerate this radiation.


No you don't. You are wrong by 5 *ORDERS* of magnitude. 100,000x

This is gibberish and you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
The dominant natural radioactivity in the human body is a trace
radioisotope of potassium and whole body content is about 40mg. There is
also some natural Carbon 14. This translates to about 10,000 Bq about
one hundred thousandth of the dose you claim. A correct set of figures
for radioactive components of a typical human is online at:

http://physics.isu.edu/radinf/natural.htm
(title Human Body)

All up the grand total is about 10 kBq mostly from K40 and C14.
Everything else adds up to less than 100 Bq.

If you read the book by Wade Allison, I promise that I will
read this book:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Fear
State of Fear is a 2004 techno-thriller novel by Michael Crichton
concerning eco-terrorists who attempt mass murder to support their
views. The novel had an initial print run of 1.5 million copies and
reached the #1 bestseller position at Amazon.com and #2 on the New
York Times Best Seller list for one week in January 2005. The book
contains many graphs and footnotes, two appendices, and a
twenty-page bibliography. Most climate scientists dispute Crichton's
science as being error-filled and distorted.[


Criton was a MD and a author. Had he been a skilled MD, he might still
be among us. He died from cancer caused by smoking:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Crichton
In accordance with the private way in which Crichton lived his life,
his throat cancer was not made public until his death.


The author Freud smoke cigars at it killed him.
He did not understand science. Get a life, learn science.


I think you need to learn some science first. Your numbers are insane.
If you had 1 GBq of radioactivity you would be a 1/37 curie open source
and would set of radiation alarms when you tried to travel abroad.

We would be looking to bury you in a lead lined casket as was done for
the unfortunate Eben Byers due to his use of Radithor patent medicine :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Byers

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Regards,
Martin Brown