"Doug" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:22:06 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:53:06 -0500, "Doug"
wrote:

On the other hand if your CLEARLY STATED agenda, is to take guns away
from
everyone, as YOU have repeatedly stated, then yes you would need to
espouse
changing laws.



A change is needed whether its to add, delete, modify or enforce laws.
I have my ideas but there may be better ones or ones that just aren't
being followed.

Which change?. Which laws? You did get it right about enforcing the
laws. We have enough of them already. Get specific with what you want;
other than taking guns away, that are legal and a protected right.

Do you feel a moral obligation to protect your family or yourself? Or
do you think the police will arrive on time when only minutes count?
You do know that police have no obligation to protect you, right?

Doug, you are up to your ass with alligators and don't know how to
drain the swamp.


Because people put words in my mouth.

BULL****
Now you're lying


I don't want to take guns away
from all, just the nuts so to speak.


You have not demonstrated how that can be done WITHOUT taking guns away from
others
Not only that, but you have not even bothered to educate yourself on how
it's been tried elsewhere and what success was achieved, if any


I just saw a commercial from the
NRA and it said that Hillary wants people to register guns with the UN
and "you know what that means".... implying that they want to take
your guns away.

WE know they do
Just like you, they have CLEARLY over time stated their agenda one way or
another



Well I don't but it's hard to make people believe me
here because they want to slant what I say or put words in my post.

I already quoted your own words from your first post
ALl your claims since then have been circular logic coming back to that



Sure maybe one or two posts weren't worded as good as they should have
been but based on the number of posts I made, I thought I made my
opinion clear. Guess not.... I think I give up in posting on this
topic but not in my beliefs.

More fool you
YOU have had a chance to educate yourself on the subject, and you have done
EVERYTHING to avoid doing so
That makes you ignorant
The fact that you CHOOSE to remain ignorant makes you stupid