On 17 Aug 2012 16:05:20 GMT, Han wrote:

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On 17 Aug 2012 12:16:56 GMT, Han wrote:

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On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:56:27 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
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Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:56:44 +0000, Han wrote:

My point is that many
people in lower positions, tomato pickers, clerks, whatever, are
paid insufficient wages, and yes paying them more would make
everything more expensive. You may or may not agree, but my
opinion is that more income equality would benefit our society.

I've occasionally wondered if it wouldn't be more equitable to pay
workers based on how well they do a job, not on what the job is.


Have you not ever experienced that in your career? That has been
the norm in my career, but I've never worked in a union shop where
the opposite prevails.

I think he's saying that the best Wallyworld greeter should be paid
the same as the best brain surgeon. "Everyone is equal", sort of
poppycock.

There are people who excel in their jobs, whether that be clerks,
engineers, physicians, or dogcatchers. All those jobs are
essential. Maybe the top performers should all be paid the same?

Don't understand why you just applied a contradictory principle.
Surely there will be differentiators - there always are. Stick with
your original thought.

You didn't catch his original thought. No contradiction at all.

Yeah, I know - it's a utopian fantasy :-).

No - it is the way that the commercial world works in many areas of
employment.

Read what he wrote again.

I'm not quite sure who "he" is here.

Larry B.

I don't think I have ever called for paying brain surgeons the same as
dog catchers.

No, Han, even you're not that far over the edge. ;-)

Thanks!!

I think effort, ability and execution of the job are what count.

Effort doesn't count. The only thing that count is *results*. Some
work hard as hell and accomplish nothing (or less), other create
wonders with apparently no effort. However, the real problem is third
parties deciding what others are "worth". It should be *entirely*
between the employer and the employee. It's none of anyone else's
damned business.

I believe that earnest effort counts for something. Call it utopian, but
I think that with more effort or drive I could have performed better.
But that would have required even more stress and less family-life.

When you can show me how "earnest effort" adds to the bottom line, I'll
listen. Effort is meaningless. "Work" (think physics) makes money.