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Larry Jaques wrote:
On 17 Aug 2012 12:51:01 GMT, Han wrote:

"Mike Marlow" wrote in
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zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:02:38 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:


That theory falls apart in places like Iowa, where after raiding
a meat packaging plant (Hormel?), they had *no* problem hiring
locals at the same wage.

That may be true - but that is where each of our own perspectives
can fail us. We see or know about things local to us, or we see
or hear about one-off situations, and then we try to apply them
universally. We're all probably somewhat guilty of that to a
degree. I don't think that the Iowa meat packing plant is all
that representative of the unemployment situation across the
country though.

There are two issues here. Illegals and unemployment. They're
pretty much separate issues, except that in this case a working
illegal is a non-working citizen. It's not unique and shouldn't be
tolerated.

It is easiest for me to come down in agreement on the aspect of
being intollerant of the illegal alien. For me that is an easy
decision. I'm not convinced though, that the non-working citizen
would readily move in to take over those jobs if the illegals were
not here. Perhaps over time, but I just can't see that happening at
all quickly.


I agree. I just don't see a 50+ year-old out of work plumber take
over the job of a 25 yo tomatopicker. Although unemployment among
the young there is very high too ...


How many of you have been out of work and starving? Think about that
when you guess about what jobs you'd take to stop it. Although you
might not last long on the farm in the sun, you'd at least try it,
wouldn't you, to keep yourself and your family fed?


Out of work - sure. Starving - no. That though, is a lot different from
the opinonated garbage you've posted in this thread. Remember them phrase
"Get off their asses" (or similar)? So Larry - you're the opinionated one
with all of the ideas for what others should do - how was your last day out
in the sun? Pretty easy to tell others that they should do that - isn't it?

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-Mike-