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Default Tree growth rings disprove that the earth is warmer now thanduring Roman times and or even 1000 years ago.

On 7/18/2012 7:41 AM, Han wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in
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On 7/17/2012 7:07 PM, Artemus wrote:
"Artemus" wrote in message
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"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
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A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made
climate change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man
made global warming. The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER
in Roman and Medieval times than it is now," the British newspaper
the Daily Mail reported last week, "and [the] world has been
cooling for 2,000 years." That and other articles suggest the
current global warming trend is a mere blip when viewed in the
context of natural temperature oscillations etched into tree rings
over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a New Jersey
newspaper, mused that the findings lock in "one piece of an
extremely complex puzzle that has been oversimplified by the Al
Gores of the world."

Got a link?
Art


Never mind. I see why you didn't provide one. The balance of the
article doesn't support the part you quoted.
http://www.livescience.com/21624-tre...l-warming.html
Art


Actually it does support it however it has a greenie interpretation
that tries to, as you have found out, make it sound otherwise. Call
it a political rebuttal if you will.

Yes at the moment the globe is getting warmer, at this brief point in
time, just like it did in the early 90's and dozens upon dozens of
times in the past thousand of years. Trying to stop the warming cycle
is futile and a waste of time and resources, we have bigger problems
to solve. Given enough time this cycle too will pass and we will be
headed for another ice age, I wonder what we are doing to cause that.

Have you ever seen a dog chasing its tail?


Just for fun. Here is a link to a retroactive look at a 1981 paper that
looked at scenarios to predict global climate, taking into account many
factors. It seems that 30 years later the observations have confirmed
the predictions, including the role of CO2.
http://tinyurl.com/832z88r or
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...uating-a-1981-
temperature-projection/

My physicist daughter found the link, and yes, KNMI is the acronym of the
Dutch weather service (Koninklijk Nederlands Meteorologisch Instituut),
and I am a born Dutchman.

In geological times Earth's temperature has often been warmer than today,
and part of the current rise in globally averaged temperatures may be due
to other factors. It is just remarkable that 1981 calculations were able
to predict observations made over the next 30 years, and were based on
the rise in CO2. Really curious correlation ... Yes I know.



Equally remarkable about 1981 is that it is an odd number year.

You can make any figures tell you what you want them to say. We do not
know the reason for climate change or how long it will last of if the
earth is naturally warming up to offset what did 40 years ago to cool
thing off unknowingly. We are going thorough a normal cycle.

That said the current findings and bits of data collected may explain
why the cave man is no longer around. His collection of data indicated
that there should be no more cooking with fire as it added too much to
the global pollution which was on every ones minds back then. They
starved to death trying to save the world. ;~)