On 7/13/2012 4:55 PM, Richard wrote:
On 7/13/2012 5:46 PM, Hawke wrote:


But the question to you was can you show that religious people teach
their students to believe in the religious teachings and not to question
them, or do they teach their students to challenge the teachings and
think critically about them? I've never seen that done. That's why I
challenge you to show me some place where the religious institutions
don't teach dogma and don't discourage any challenges to what is being
taught as is comes from god. If that exists anywhere I don't know of it.
Do you?

Hawke



Hawkie, you are such a fool.

Who does not question their beliefs at times?

You?


I think you have a comprehension problem. I didn't ask about whether
people have questions about their beliefs. I believe that no matter who
you are at some time or another you have questions about what you
believe. If Mother Teresa did, then who doesn't?

But I'm trying to say by asking my question that people who teach
religious ideas as opposed to secular ideas don't teach the same way.
The religious don't encourage critical thinking or challenges to their
authority. They discourage it. Just look at how they teach the young in
Islam. What they teach is supposed to be accepted by the pupil
completely and they aren't to question it. It's the same in every
religion I know of.

Secular teaching does encourage students to challenge what the
instructors are teaching and they do teach their students to think
critically. It's completely different from religious teaching. I can't
believe you would disagree with that. If you have been in a religious
setting and a secular one you know they are not equal. The religious
tell the pupils the information they are giving them came from god. You
don't ask questions when god tells you something.

In Texas there are a lot of religious people teaching children in public
schools and they are not likely to teach them in a secular way. They are
going to teach them the way they teach religion as much as they can get
away with. Do you think that is not true?

Hawke