On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:15:23 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Jun 21, 8:56*pm, "
wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:30:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:





On Jun 21, 12:13*am, "Steve B" wrote:
"Doug" wrote

I would have simply pointed out the logic that if there is a discount,
how could his discounted price be greater than the undiscounted price.
Even if he isn't good with numbers, he should see the logic I hope. If
not, then I'd say good bye to him. * And unless you have nothing
better to do, I wouldn't waste my time contacting them further. *I
mean do you really think you will make a difference????

If I get bad service at a restaurant, I won't leave before talking to the
manager. *If his response is unacceptable, I then will call corporate, or
whatever the contact person is. *You do no service by condoning poor service
and not speaking up.

Steve

That is really the best practice.

My son is in the "Hospitality Management" business. He put himself
through school by being a (very good) server and bartender.

The problem with not tipping a server who gave you poor service is
that the bartender, the cooks, the bus boys, etc. also don't get a
tip, even though they may have provided excellent service - service
that the patron didn't experience directly. The same goes for not
tipping a very polite and efficient server because the meal itself
sucked. The server gets no tip for her work when the problem was in
the kitchen.

Tough. *If my experience isn't up to expectations, for any reason, they all
suffer. *That's the whole point of tips.

ummm...that doesn't make sense, based on what you say next...read on.

Follow along...

In most major restaurants tips are shared across a number of staff
members, many of whom you never interact with, but that had a part in
your experience.

That ****es me off. *The tip is supposed to be for the server, not as a way
for management to cut costs. *I always pay the tip in cash (95% of the time,
the entire bill is in cash), for this reason.

Earlier you said that you want them all to suffer, so you don't tip,
yet it ****es you off if the tip gets shared.

They all suffer if the business goes under, as it should, no? Yes, sharing
tips does **** me off. I'm tipping for service, not to help pay the illegal
dish washer.

You can't have one without the other. If the normal practice wasn't to
share tips, how you you make the whole team suffer by not tipping?

Don't think much...

I'm not sure where you get the idea that the tip is supposed to be for
the server. As far as I know, the sharing of tips has been common
practice throughout the ages.

No, it is not, and is illegal in some places.

I know, I know...they are all part of a team and if one team member
screws up, the whole team loses. I get that.

Precisely. *If I knew the server was forced to give up any portion of the tip,
I wouldn't even be eating there in the first place.

Then stop going to restaurants, because now you know.

You're wrong. It's certainly not universal.

please trim your posts