On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:25:47 +1000, "Rod Speed"
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"H. Neary" wrote in message
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On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:18:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
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"H. Neary" wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:59:55 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

The idiot must really be short of a few brain cells.

I would have
screamed in agony, rolled on the floor till the ambulance arrived,
had
a month off work [ Or at the very least four working days], and
also
contacted the police and a solicitor.
So are you are saying that you could not manage to plug in a 110V
extension
lead to a 110V transformer?
No of couse not!

I'm saying that I would take full advantage of any physical assault
against me.

HN

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in college
recently because some **** reported him for giving him a quick poke
when
telling him to get off his phone, no harm was caused by the 'poke' and
the guy wasn't even meant to be on his phone anyway!!! So now, one of
our units is gone completely tits up until this mess is sorted.


That sort of thing happened where I worked when I was younger and in a
way was expected behaviour and accepted and at school as well..

I seriously don't think it did me and anyone I worked with and was at
school with any harm at all, just we learnt to behave and respect others
that bit quicker...

And No its no excuse for long term systematic abuse anywhere either...

There is a separation between the two..

There is no seperation. Physical assault doesn't
become acceptable just because it is a one off.

Poking someone to get their attention when they are
concentrating on something else isnt physical assault.

I'm sure the systematic abuse that is still coming to light
in church schools, orphanages, detetion centres etc,

So is murder. Doesn't mean that poking
someone to get their attention is murder tho.

didn't start with any intention of prolonged repeated assaults either.

Bet most of it did.

To bully someone just because he is a few steps below you on the
professional ladder is a pretty lame and despicable thing to do.

Poking someone to get their attention isnt bullying anyone.

Even you must have noticed that the cops do grab people at times
and take them to their vans etc. That isnt physical assault either.

Fine next time you feel the urge to poke
someone, drag them off to your vehicle instead.

No thanks.

No problem, everything solved!

It clearly aint physical assault when the cops do it.

Sol your claim that anything physical is assault is just plain wrong.

I would tend to wonder about the motives behind this thuggery

Your problem.

No, The victims.

Nope, no problem for them when you are stopping them getting run over etc.

incidentally. When I did my "apprenticeship" I and the three or four
others working for the company had the benefit of day release, and
this gave us a technical knowledge of the subject that far exceeded
some of the engineers, who quite often were in place because of
experience in a field that was by this time mutating rapidly.

The professional jealousy coupled with the threats to their careers
was probably the reason behind the arrogance and insults a few were so
keen to dish out.

That clearly isnt the case with Adam.

No the IEE regs take a long time move up an edition.

That isnt the reason.

Although it never happened I am reasonably certain any assault on an
apprentice at my workplace even in those days would have been met with
instant dismissal.

Poking someone to get their attention isnt physical assault.

It certainly is.

The legal system has decided otherwise.

You get to like that or lump it.

And Adam clearly hasn't been dismissed, instantly or otherwise.

As I have not come across a contractor with his approach anywhere in the
UK,

Your pathetically limited experience is your problem.

the term Troll comes to mind.

You wouldn't know what a real troll was if one bit you on your lard arse.

You're much more of a troll than he is on this particular issue.

I have worked alonside people who's only achievement
in life was the CSCS card, they still managed to
communicate without resorting to filth or violence.

And hordes of others choose to do things differently.

You get to like that of lump that too.

If he was caught assaulting people on any site I
have worked on, he wouldn't hsave time to sign out.

And he wouldnt have had anything to do with you in the first
place unless he chose to jerk you around for a bit of light entertainment.

Me too. And you wouldn't be getting either of us sacked
for poking someone in the ribs when they are on the phone
and about to get run over either. You'd just make a complete
laughing stock of yourself if you were actually stupid enough
to trying getting us charged too.

Actually you would be expelled from a large number of sites just using
a mobile. as thy are deemed to be a risk around traffic.

If you are in front of someone in a position to "poke him in the ribs"
I think there would be little danger of him walking into the traffic
anyway, at the rear it would be a stupid move, he may bolt forward
thinking some object was approaching from behind.

If you must produce some inane hypothetical situation to support a
flawed argument, pleas try to stick to something within the realms of
feasibility.


The audio output from a mobile isn't that great. A shout at a range
cose enough to perform an assault would certainly attract attention.


HN