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On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 03:49:54 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller

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Kurt Ullman wrote in news:-
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*Doug Miller wrote:

Obviously you are, by your continuing insistence on the next sentence:

So, why do you continue to refuse to
acknowledge that those in the higher brackets pay a higher effective
rate overall than those in the lower ones?

Because it's a false statement. The truth is that *some* in the higher
brackets pay a higher
effective rate, and some don't. To imply, as you consistently have, and
continue to do, that
this is true of *all* of them is false.
* *WHen have I said that.

About six lines above, for example. "those in the higher brackets pay a higher effective
rate..." with no qualifiers such as "on average" or "some".

...or, of course, "all.

And I'm *still* waiting for you to admit that income from capital gains is taxed at a lower rate
than income from wages or salaries.

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There is only taxation involved if the capital gains stream came
from a business that involved profit that was being taxed. *I think
what you're saying is that the business paid taxes over the years
so when the business or stock in the business is sold, the lower
rate is justified.

Dividends are also capital gains, and taxed (at least) twice.

Dividends are *not* capital gains, though they too receive
special tax treatment. Capital gain is strictly the profit from the
SALE of an asset. Dividends are an income stream from a
stock. As such, your claim of double taxation is most clearly
applicable to dividends. In the case of a stock, it's less
clear. Best example of that would be the internet bubble of
2000. You had people taking huge profits in stocks that had
no earnings and where the companies never paid taxes.
If those captial gains were not taxed, there would have been
no profit paid at all on the gains, by the company, etc.



You could have capital gains from the sale of a house, land,
coins, gold, corn futures, etc that don't involve an income stream.

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