On 4/16/2012 3:48 PM, Jack wrote:
On 4/16/2012 2:38 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/16/2012 12:18 PM, Jack wrote:
On 4/15/2012 5:55 PM, Dave wrote:
Much LESS noise in
that same customer's house. May customers are living in the same house
a contractor my be working in.

Got a smart reply to that scenario Jack?

Well, I've done plenty of work for people, and have had work done for
me, and the shop vac decibel level was never, ever, not even once an
issue. You are one bazaar dude.


Well Joe the fixer upper down the street has done plenty of work for
people too, and he was cheap!

Well yeah, he wasn't paying off a Festool mortgage:-)

But do this for a living, and better and quieter tools are appreciated
by the customer and the user.

Well if I ever become a professional vacuum cleaner guy, running a shop
vac 4 hours or more a day, I'll consider that Festool shop vac...
Meanwhile, after pounding nails all day, running hammer drills into
concrete walls all day, whacking 2x's with a circular saw all day, when
done, my screaming shop vac will let the customer know I'm done, and am
cleaning up after myself. The noise won't bother them a lick, they be
glad it's over. And my vac spews no dust that I can see.

Think about what you said and what I am about to say... All kidding
aside. If your customers are glad it is over, is that leaving a
favorable impression in their minds when they have more work to be done?
Most of my work is repeat customers and second to that is referral
business from those customers. I do not have a web site,,, yet, and my
only advertising is my business card. No business phone either.
Swingman and I did a kitchen renovation that began about 18 months ago.
We used Festool equipment extensively for cavinets, doors, and
drawers. We thought we would never get out of there. IIRC the work
tripled what we were expecting to do. An no, it probably was not all
because we were using Festool equipment but a good portion absolutely
was because we were using Festool equipment and it certainly made life
easier for us.



Listen Leon, I'd love to own a fleet of Festools. I've had them in my
hands, ran a few, and they exude quality. I can't justify $645 for a
damned vacuum, and I guarantee you I'm not alone, including many
professionals making a living doing wood work.

Now Jack you are speaking in a way I can understand.