"Home Guy" wrote in message ...
Robert Green wrote:

HG's most useless posts are when he accuses Americans of things
that people are doing all over the world

Like illegally invading other countries on the pretext of
"preemtive war"

Weren't Canadian forces fighting with us, shoulder to shoulder?

Not in Iraq. We were not part of that "coalition of the co-opted".

http://www.arabamericannews.com/news...da&article=984

Says differently.

I'm not sure what we did was pre-emptive warfare.

That was how you rationalized it to yourselves.

The pretext was taking WMD out of the hands of a lunatic.

There were no WMD's, and he was not a lunatic.

You do know what "pretext" means?

Saddam Hussein was a strong-man who was keeping islamic fundamentalism
in check in his country. By assassinating him, and by removing Kadaffi
in Libya and Mubarak in Egypt you have insured that radical islamist
fundamentalism will thrive in the middle east - a huge setback for the
goals of global political and military stability.

No dispute there. You think we would have learned when we encouraged the
Palestinians to be democratic and they elected Hamas. But I am not
convinced "we" did all those things. It may be the Wikileaks got that ball
rolling.

Do you know that the single largest group of foreign jihaddist fighters
in Afghanistan came from the so-called "freedom fighters" in Libya?
Those same people that you helped "liberate" in Libya are the same ones
that were killing your troops and setting IED's in Afghanistan.

Wouldn't doubt it.

And the same thing is happening in Syria. Those same "freedom fighters"
in Syria that are being attacked by Assad are the ones that are burning
christian churches and killing greek-orthodox christians in Syria.

I'm convinced that it's a local problem and not ours. So is the Iran nuke
issue. Saudi Arabia has enough of our petrodollars to deal with the issue,
but they'd rather have us do it. So would Israel.

US foreign policy in the middle east over the past 10 years is playing
right into the hands of islamists and their goal of wiping out
christianity from that region. Put that in your born-again evangelical
pipe and smoke it.

You must have me confused with what my Aussie friends call "a God botherer."

More importantly, how does your attitude and calling people morons
help convert the attitudes of Americans who continually indicate
their desire to play world cop by electing politicians that do so?

First of all, there are morons among you who are anally focused on
whether or not women have access to birth control or abortion and have
no clue and don't ask where candidates stand on foreign policy.

Doesn't seem to answer my question. How does calling people "morons" help
change, and not harden, their attitudes?

Second, you're not wimpering children. You can handle some harsh and
direct language from time to time. Your media shields you like children
from how you're perceived in the outside world - particularly from other
western countries - and even your friggen next-door-neighbor. It's
really amazing how ignorant you are in that regard.

I'm pretty well aware of how my relatives in Italy, my friends in England,
Canada, Oz, NZ and Japan think of the US. Again, you must mean some other
"you."

Propose a path to a better world and I'd have a lot more positive
things to say.

Ron Paul.

Propose a *viable* path to a better world. A guy who could only get elected
if all other Presidential candidates were suddenly kidnapped by aliens isn't
going to get you to that better world.

--
Bobby G.