On 4/3/2012 8:57 AM, Ron wrote:
On Apr 3, 3:02 am, Bill wrote:
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On 3/29/2012 12:08 PM, Attila.Iskander wrote:

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The EMT's were first rate considering the guy was beat to
within an inch of his life. Even washed his clothes. Washed his
moon walking jacket too.

YAWN
How stupid !

If you believe Geo. Z you're right.

I don't need to "believe" anyone.
I try to look at what DATA is available, and how the data fits the
various possible scenarios

1) The video image was Black& White, and of poor quality
NO way to really tell the extent of injuries
2) Contusions and lacerations to the back of the head do NOT
always cause profuse bleeding
3) Ditto for the face.
4) Ditto for the nose
5) It is quite easy to clean up someone who has stopped
bleeding.
PARTICULARLY when the bleeding was minimal.

The video is at best non-indicative

But thank your for letting me demonstrate YOUR stupidity.

Wrong again, you of no facts and less knowledge.

But your fitting of the DATA to match the scanario is totally without
substabntiation if you state the video was of poor quality, then
proceed to base your case on that video as you did in 2,3,4,5, and
your conclusion. You then state the vudeo was non-indicative,
further negating any proof you presume to present in 2-5.

Even black and white will show dark stains on a shirt. There is one
point in the video where Z is angled toward the camera and his jacket
is open- no stains.

Contrary to what you say, the head contains more blood vessels than
other parts of the body, and the face has the greatest concentration.
Since the nose is on the face (is yours somewhere else?) you will get
profuse bleeding when your nose is broken. Maybe not if it's a
sideways blow, but a haymaker that drops a chunky guy like Z (over
200lbs) WILL produce lots of blood.

His neighbor said he NOW weighs about 170 lbs. 5'9" 170.

It was curious that the original police report stated the dead guy's
height and weight, but no weight for Z.

It was also curious in the video of arrival at the PD the cops, at one
point, let Z walk behind them...very casual demeanor. The vid was at
odd angles, but Z looked about the same size as the cops...all a little
portly )