Bill Kniess wrote in
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"Attila.Iskander" wrote in
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"Robert Green" wrote in message
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That *you* can find. That's a serious limitation. Does your
state publish the names of CHL holders? If not, how can you or
a reporter tell whether a shooting involves a CHL? This article
explains precisely why "not finding any cases" absolutely does
not equal "not being any cases."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/27/us...guns-and-some-
are-in-the-wrong-hands.html


Here is an even better counter to that biased piece of propaganda
from that rag the NYT
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...-s-bad-gun-sta
tistics-robert-verbruggen

"The NYT's Bad Gun Statistics
By Robert VerBruggen
December 27, 2011 11:44 A.M.

The New York Times examined the [concealed-carry] permit
program in North Carolina, one of a dwindling number of states
where the identities of permit holders remain public.
The review, encompassing the last five years, offers a rare,
detailed look at how a liberalized concealed weapons law has
played out in one state. And while it does not provide
answers, it does raise
questions.

More than 2,400 permit holders were convicted of felonies or
misdemeanors,
excluding traffic-related crimes, over the five-year period,
The Times
found
when it compared databases of recent criminal court cases and
licensees. While the figure represents a small percentage of
those with permits, more than 200 were convicted of felonies,
including at least 10 who committed murder or manslaughter.
All but two of the killers used a gun.

All of these numbers are completely meaningless; in any large
population,
there will be some crime. The only way to see what these
numbers mean is to compare concealed-carry holders to the
general population. Fortunately, state-level murder data are
easy to find.

North Carolina has a statewide murder rate of about 5 per
100,000. Even without counting manslaughter, that's 25 murders
committed per 100,000 North Carolinians every five years.
There are about 230,000 valid concealed-carry permits in North
Carolina, so by pure chance, you'd expect these folks to be
responsible for nearly 60 murders over five years. And yet
only ten of them committed murder or manslaughter. Instead of
"rais[ing] questions," the Times has demonstrated yet again
that permit holders are more peaceful than the general
population."

There is NO WAY the "permit holders are nore peaceful than the
general population" conclusion can be drawn. Bad logic.

It's true.
the facts support it. permit holders obey the law because they don't want
to have their permit revoked. THEY are not the ones committing acts of
violence against lawul citizens. Even police -as a group- break the law
more often.



National Review??????? that's a rag in and of itself.


NR is much more truthful than the NYT. Probably the Washington Post,too.
certainly more than HuffPo.

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