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Default OT - New thread on Florida shooting

On Apr 3, 2:17*am, Bill Kniess wrote:
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On Mar 29, 3:12*am, Bill Kniess wrote:
Molly Brown wrote in
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1. To defend yourself means when you’re not moving or going
anywhere and someone is coming after you, your loved one or
your property. 2. Unless you’re a member of SWAT and on duty, a
gun can only be used as a defense. 3. When you go AFTER someone
( read # 1 above) then you are no longer considered to be
defending yourself. Florida has a marvelous law of “stand your
ground” that is extremely useful. If people like you don’t stop
trying to subvert it, we’re all going to lose.


Who are you saying here is the defender?


Subverting ? *Are you saying we were a lost bunch from the
beginning of the country up to the time this law was passed?


Marvelous law ? *I'm an NRA member, but I have to say that
there was
NO reason to have a law like this enacted. (It was
bankrolled by my
NRA, and for the life of me, cannot find out for what
purpose they
push such legislation).


The Florida SYG law was passed after a citizen defending
himself was charged. *I don't know all the facts and I think
he ultimately either wasn't convicted or got it overturned.
I heard the guy that sponsored the bill in the FL legislature
briefly explaining it on TV. *It was passed to help prevent
this from happening again to a citizen using lethal force
justifiably. * Given the propensity for many left wing
anti-gun prosecutors to bring charges, I'm not sure it's
a bad thing either.


What's more, it should not matter in the current case.
By Z's account and the eye witness account that has
confirmed the key parts of his story, he had no ability to
retreat at the time of the shooting.


I think there are a lot of holes in Z's account and also from his
father''s accout of what he was told.
The investigating homicide detective felt an arrest should have been
made - he felt strongly enough to file an afadavit saying so.
Whenhas a cop ever gone out of his way to do paperwork? (or stick his
head out)

Look a Z's clothing in the video shown as he was being brought into
the police station. *There is NO BLOOD on jis shirt. *A broken nose
after beiing pummelled by his attacker, will bring forth a lot of
blood. Where is the stains?


Kobe Bryant had his nose broken during the NBA All Star game (which
was the same night as the shooting) he had a little blood coming out.
He was cleaned up and continued to play. There is no blood on his
shirt and his nose looks the same. He didn't even know it was broken
until after the game and after getting a CT scan. And I do believe
that Z is claiming that he was punched once in the nose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmom7shnrn0

It is hard to tell if there is any injury
to the back of Z's head as he told the police his head was pounded
repeatedly on the ground. *Again if there was an injury, lots of bood
is usually the result of a head injury.


You don't see 2 red marks and swelling in this video?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/6u8p7wu

Also, why is the cop looking at the back of Z's head at the 1:25
mark?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WWDNbQUgm4