"Attila.Iskander" wrote in
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"gonjah" wrote in message
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On 3/29/2012 12:08 PM, Attila.Iskander wrote:

"gonjah" wrote in message
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The EMT's were first rate considering the guy was beat to
within an inch of his life. Even washed his clothes. Washed his
moon walking jacket too.

YAWN
How stupid !

If you believe Geo. Z you're right.



I don't need to "believe" anyone.
I try to look at what DATA is available, and how the data fits the
various possible scenarios

1) The video image was Black & White, and of poor quality
NO way to really tell the extent of injuries
2) Contusions and lacerations to the back of the head do NOT
always cause profuse bleeding
3) Ditto for the face.
4) Ditto for the nose
5) It is quite easy to clean up someone who has stopped
bleeding.
PARTICULARLY when the bleeding was minimal.

The video is at best non-indicative

But thank your for letting me demonstrate YOUR stupidity.


Wrong again, you of no facts and less knowledge.

But your fitting of the DATA to match the scanario is totally without
substabntiation if you state the video was of poor quality, then
proceed to base your case on that video as you did in 2,3,4,5, and
your conclusion. You then state the vudeo was non-indicative,
further negating any proof you presume to present in 2-5.


Even black and white will show dark stains on a shirt. There is one
point in the video where Z is angled toward the camera and his jacket
is open- no stains.

Contrary to what you say, the head contains more blood vessels than
other parts of the body, and the face has the greatest concentration.
Since the nose is on the face (is yours somewhere else?) you will get
profuse bleeding when your nose is broken. Maybe not if it's a
sideways blow, but a haymaker that drops a chunky guy like Z (over
200lbs) WILL produce lots of blood. And even if by some miracle it
didn't, then all the pummelling the kid gave him would do so. Scalp
lacerations are also heavy bleeders. Contusions, no, but laceratios
for sure.

You could not tell his overall condition? For someone just in a life
threatening struggle, he navigates the rear door of the police
cruiser in handcuffs pretty smoothly, the police didn't think him so
bad off as no one helped him out of the car. Most police recommend
people bleeding and with head injury should go to hospital, victim or
perpetrator. If Z refused, then maybe he was not hurt as bad as he
later told police, or this was another thing the Sanford police
failed to do. It would be useful to see the EMT report on the
incident.