On 3/31/2012 2:06 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:


Just because you don't think some of those are correct, and you base
that only on what you know from this newsgroup, that doesn't mean it's
not true. If I've had my IQ tested and it shows above average, if by
having a college degree that means I am better educated than 70% of
Americans,


Did you suddenly become "more educated" the day you got your degree,
than the day before?

The way education is measured is in credentials. So yes, the day I
graduated I became more educated than the day before I graduated. That's
by the standard of how you measure education. Was I not just as educated
a week before I graduated? Of course I was, but you measure a man's
education by his degrees. Only about 27% of Americans have completed a
BA or a BS degree. If you have one of those you are "more educated" than
those who haven't. It's that simple.



~52% of the US population (as of 2000) had some college.
and BTW, going to college, is NOT the only way to get an education,
and a "history buff" ought to know that.

That all depends on what you define as education. Most people call
education college. They don't call all learning education although it
probably is. But you're talking about what words mean and that can make
things complicated.



if I am more knowledgeable than most,
At least you are aware that there is a difference between education
and knowledge. But you sure don't show it here.

You're entitled to that opinion but just understand that I think it's
totally wrong. I haven't seen any great demonstration of knowledge or
education from you either. So why point out me when you haven't shown
any better? But you probably think your posts show you as someone really
bright? Me too.


and do things better
than most,
Un provable, and unlikely.

Both provable and it happens to be the truth. I do a lot of things well.
That's just a fact.


then all of what I said are true. But all I said is that I'm
better than average.

And much other puffery.

You don't know what that word means. If you think saying I'm better than
average is puffery you're out of your mind.


I never said I was great at anything. More than
anything else I'm well rounded.

And as for people "finding out right away", just because they don't
SAY it like we do here, does not mean they are not thinking "what an
Ignorant, overbearing, conceited jerk".

But since I don't convey that kind of picture why would anyone think that?


They don't think that for one really good reason.
They haven't met you, would be the ONE reason I can see.

Yeah, but that's you. Anyone else would first conclude that they don't
think I'm an ignorant, overbearing, conceited jerk. I meet all kinds of
people and that is not the impression they get.

You don't know that for a fact. How many of the people you meet, to
you meet again or see regularly?

The truth is I'm a pretty likable guy. Most people who meet me like me.
The exception is when I run into someone who doesn't like me. That's rare.


Whether it's sports,
or politics, or history, or anything else, they find out right away that
most of the time I know more than they do about what it is we are
discussing.
You have already shown me, that your grasp of history that is more
than a couple of hundred years old is rather weak.


Weaker than yours? When did you display a superior grasp of history?
In our "discussions" on the economic status of what you like to call
the "poor" and in discussion of early medieval guilds and their
relationship to the availability to labor (both trained and
untrained).

I know quite a lot about the poor. I also know about medieval guilds
too. But I don't remember anything specific. My argument with you isn't
about what happened in history but about what it means and how it is
interpreted. I don't see things the way you conservatives do. I see very
little the way you conservatives do. But if you want to discuss
something specific I assure you that I know enough to do so.



Not only did I take history in college I'm a history buff as well. So your
impression is mistaken.

I doubt it.

That's easy to explain. You have made the mistake of basically doubting
everything I say. You do that at your peril because I am not often wrong
about anything. But you take the opposite tack, that I'm wrong all the
time and every now and then I'm right. That's an error by you.


Here's an example. Say I'm at my health club like I am five days a week
and I'm talking to someone about something related to health. I've been
going to health clubs since I was a teenager. I've seen every machine,
and done every exercise you can imagine. I'm an old and experienced hand
at it.
So whatever the subject is I know a whole lot about it.


So tell us again what Physical Chess is about, and what sport does it
discuss?

Never heard of it and have no idea what sport it is related to. Is that
something most sports enthusiasts would know about?


Doesn't really matter to some one who could TRUTHFULLY boast
"So whatever the subject is I know a whole lot about it."

blah blah on guns clipped

Why? Doesn't that count as an area that I'm extremely well versed in?
There is no way of telling, all you did was to provide information
that you fire from 20 to 200 rounds a week.

Do you think that's all I think it takes to know a lot about guns,
firing a couple hundred rounds a week? Because I don't. There is much
more to it than that. Much of which I know. I've also reloaded for more
than a decade as well.



Really?????
WHO here has asked you ANY thing when they don't know something. I
have been here longer than you claim to have been, and I don't recall
seeing it.

Nobody here asks anyone when they don't know something.
Your statement "A few people here don't, but they are the exceptions."
sure implies that all but those few exceptions do ask you for
information.

What you think I'm implying is wrong. Few people ask me for anything
here. When I used to spend a lot of time in rec.guns I gave people
information all the time.



With the computer you can answer any question, as we all know. Just like
I did to find out that physical chess is just another name for fencing.
Which leads me to ask a question, when did fencing become "physical
chess"?

If you had asked me if I knew anything about fencing I would
have told you that I do. I'm no expert but I know more about it than
most people.


And yet you didn't know it was frequently called Physical Chess?
(of course it isn't the only sport to be called that)

I told you I wasn't familiar with that term and when did they start
calling fencing physical chess?




For example most people you ask would not even know what an
epee is. I do.

Again, big whoop, probably looked it up.

Nope, I know what a foil, saber, katana, cutlass, broadsword, and epee
all are, others too, have know for years, and don't need to go to the
computer to look them up.

Just about everyone I hang out with would know. Probably less than
half of those I work with would.

Point is most people wouldn't know that an epee is a type of sword but I
do.



Or are you saying that in a group every one
in the group thinks they are above average? Maybe they are.
Mathematically impossible, showing again that you think 100% of a
group CAN be above it's average. That "I know more than they do about
what it is we are discussing" is really showing through here!

You're simply wrong here. You know why? Because I don't think 100% of a
group can be above its average. I don't know where you got that idea.

Your statement "Maybe they are" would be why.

Taken out of context. Maybe they are was referring to what the people in
the group thought they were.


Think back to a discussion where you think 100% of people should be
paid an above average wage. Again mathematically impossible.

But realistically very possible.


Not! mathematically impossible means just that.

So you know of nothing that is possible that is mathematically impossible?



What I meant was I pay every one I hire
above average pay.


Wasn't even in a discussion of what you pay YOUR serfs.


It was to me. And nobody that I hire to work for me is a serf. Is that
what you call people who you pay for their labor? That would really tell
me a lot about you as a person.

Hawke