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On Mar 24, 8:56*am, Han wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" wrote
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You know what's sad, to me. *The various racists, and anti freedom
activists will take this case, and try to use it to remove freedoms
from the responsible citizens of the USA


When 9,999 responsible citizens carry guns, and use them
responsibly. No one calls for more freedom. But, one vigilante
commits murder on the street, and the anti freedom activists call
for loss of God given freedoms.


This Zimmerman case does not belong in these "statistics". *He was
known
to the police as someone who stalks around imagining hoodlums. *He
should
have been talked to in the most strict terms, and told that he
shouldn't stalk, and that if he was found to carry a weapon during
stalking that he would get a summons of some kind, and that his
weapon would be confiscated.


I was thinking along similar lines.
I would like to see what exactly took place during the 47 other
times Zimmerman called 911 during the past year. Like you say,
I've heard media reports that say almost all of them were calls
that involved nothing of substance. If it's true that he did make
large numbers of calls about nothing, then the police should
explain why they didn't sit him down and have a talk, explaining
that what he was doing was wasting their time. I would expect
that if I called the cops 47 times about stuff that turned out to
be nothing that I'd probably get such a talk and if it didn't stop,
be charged with some nuisance crime.



Something needs to be done to ensure responsible people carry weapons
if they want to, but that irresponsible people don't. *This kid
should not be written of as unavoidable collateral damage.


Unfortunately I don't think that's possible. If you look at the big
picture, the ability to carry in those states that have it has lead
to preventing a lot more crimes than it causes. There is always
going to be some incident like this, no matter what you do. The
most they can do to help is to try Zimmerman and hopefully send
a message to anyone else trying to play cop.


That should be left up to legislators. If they permit "unstable" people
to carry firearms (whether through loopholes in the laws or other
negligence), then the state should be responsible for the injuries
committed by the "unstable" citizens. Since IANAL, I have no definition
for "unstable".

(Note: *I don't like anyone covering their head and/or face when
walking in public).

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Geraldo Rivera is taking a lot of heat for saying that he won't let
his kids go out dressed in a hoodie and he doesn't think any
parent should. He says people associate it with gang bangers
and criminals and that makes it more likely that something like
what just happened could occur.


The local NYCity news (ABC7) had a short item about how black parents
told their kids to unciver their heads when going into a store, keep
their hands out in the open, and never stand too close to other people,
and how they repeated those admonitions to their teenagers on a daily
basis. Seems like good advice, and a sorry testimony to the state of the
citizenry.

The key to me in this case is that it's hard to imagine
Martin presented such a threat
to Zimmerman that he had to use deadly force. I would
also like to see pics of him from that night. I heard that he did
have facial injuries, but not sure if that is true or how extensive.
For him to have any case at all, he better have a face that's
all messed up. I also wonder where that pic that the media
is all using came from, if not from that night?


Yep!

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Han
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