On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 03:00:55 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

On 05/03/2012 19:17, Ghostrecon wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:35:36 +0000, stuart noble wrote:

I once spent several days trying to get access to do something beyond
give me a default view of a flat table.


In Access tables are only ever tables. Forms and reports based on the
table present the data any way you please.
I had a lot of fun learning the basics of Access. I never got beyond
macros though, and I suspect most people don't need to either. It's the
"relational" aspect that should be taught, something that IME
programmers don't necessarily understand too well!

I've taught relational databases at A level (computer science) - but not
with ACCESS IIRC I used VFP8 at the time

That takes me back a bit... used to like knocking up things in FoxPro
LAN in its DOS days ;-)

There are 2 areas here ICT - word processing, spreadsheets, files folders
etc whichh all will still do and the computer science aspect (what the RPi
is targeted on) how cmputing machines work etc

Anyone got any figures for how many students do computer science these
days at GCSE or A Level? IIRC when I did my A level in '85/6 there were
only about 120 students in the country that took it that year.. I get
the impression there have never been big numbers doing it.

league tables went some way to knock computers studies at A level on the
head, students found the technical side hard I remember trying to teach
them algorithms for shellsort, quicksort and bubble sort with bits of card
cos visualisation helped the same for recursion and interupt handling even
then some still struggled - they thought it was going to be messing around
building pcs etc (which we did a bit of for the hardware side) - we taught
it for about 5 years with me (physics specialist) + another guy (ICT
specialist) - results were ok but not spectacular we had 40 kids (out of
280) for a couple of years and enough to run a group (20ish) for the rest -
we thought that the numbers were healthy but I moved back to engineering
and physics and they got another ICT specialist to teach it :-(
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