On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 13:43:46 -0000, Tim Watts wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 12:43:36 -0000, Tim Watts
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 20:41:10 -0000, wrote:

I see a few places are stocking 100W incandescent bulbs again.

I thought they had been banned under EU regs.

Personally I welcome them. They are brighter than their "equivalents".
Instant on, and a hell of a lot cheaper now the subsidies have
rendered the so called more efficient lamps so expensive.


HN

Get an LED lamp and stop using the CFL ****. Instant on, 50,000 hour
life, bright, any tone of white you want, virtually no heat produced,
virtually no electricity used.


Possibly, if you buy a decent brand (eg with Cree, Nichia or Luxeon
LEDs).

It's Cree I have.

Good - you should be OK then (assuming it's not a rip off).

The seller appears to have a good reputation (unusual for a Chinese seller), and he did say there was a 5 year guarantee.

If you buy cheap chinese crap from B&Q, you can look forward to LED chips
failing in short order.

Also the colour index is even more a minefield than CFLS.

Nonsense. With LEDs you can choose warm white, cool white, etc, etc.
I've not seen much choice with CFL.

I said Index (CRI if you want to be pedantic), not colour temperature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_rendering_index

Oh that. I'm not having a problem with these. Everything appears the same as daylight. CFLs were awful.

Filaments were so much simpler - no dimmer problems, and your choice was
limited to crap vs OK vis a vis lifetime. A GLS 100W filament while it
worked generally behaved like any other GLS 100W filament.

Filaments use a fortune in electricity and are very hot so tend to damage
the light socket.

What?? I have never seen a heat damaged lamp socket.

Strange. Any that are down-facing (eg a normal pendant light) go brittle that I've seen.

You are also restricted in what shades you can use when
using 100W ones (and even 60W).

And in the old days, we mostly only had BC fittings to worry about...

BC is a bit big and clumsy in my spotlights.

My point being we've gone from a simple choice of one main fitting (not
counting tubes), not to 2 or 3 to suit smaller fittings, but half a dozen
just for mains direct drive:

BC
SBC
ES
SES
GU10
G9

I stick to GU10 and BC. I do have ES and SES from existing fittings in the house and some cupboard lighting.

ELV is just as bad

Do you mean low voltage? I've not seen the point in low voltage lighting at all, all you're doing is adding the requirement for a transformer and more wiring.

Then there's various fluorescent fittings T4,T5,PLS,PLC,PLT, 2D 2pin, 2D
4pin, GX53

It's mad...

I try to avoid those ones. I don't want to be stuck with fluorescent.

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