"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
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"rangerssuck" wrote in message
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Well, for starters, $1.16 per kWh? Where does this guy live?

After separating the fixed and proportional costs, I pay $0.159 per KWH.
If I simply divide the bill by the consumption it looks like $0.25. I can
run a gas generator for considerably less than $1.16 / KWH.

If I do the same division in NY, it comes out to 36c.... an effing
outtage.... I mean, outrage.....

In CA, after the Enron ass****ing, I believe they do get up to over $1
/kwhr, as the "tier" structure of their billing rapidly escalates the
charges.

Basically, the first few hours of many utilities' pricing is just a HD
low-price come-on..... after that, bend over.


http://www.p3international.com/products/p4460.html

Much more significant is the cost of the battery divided by its capacity
times cycle life, to give dollars per KWH. With lead-acids, solar power
doesn't break even for me if the panels are free.

Altho the calcs in that article are kind of bizarre, the bottom line with
electrics or hybrids is that over the life of the car -- or battery pack --
they are no bargain at all. I did some calcs which showed me that the
electrics/hybrids I would like to buy will cost me, per mile, *at least* 50%
more than my Honder ****.... I mean, Fit, will cost.

Actually, the Honda Fit is a perty neat car, and Consumer Reports regularly
lists it as the car that has THE lowest cost-to-own over 5 years -- 42-44c
per mile to operate.

Hybrids/electrics are waaaay over that, if you amortize the expected
replacement of the battery.

The price of the Volt is outrageous. When you think about it from a
machining pov, electrics don't have 1/100th the mechanical complexity of an
IC engine -- yet they cost more, for essentially a battery and an effing
motor.
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jsw