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Default Alternative to test tapes for cassette player speed ?

gregz wrote in message
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"N_Cook" wrote:
25 years ago I had access to a professional audio-visual studio and

managed
to record a couple of tapes with crystal derived 1KHz sine tones on a
calibrated cassette deck. Since then I've mangled one and only one

remains
so reluctant to use it, maybe stretched for all I know, no accesss to

known
good player these days.

Decided instead to use a strobe LED and f-counter coupled sig gen shone
directly on the capstan (x4 speed for easier use , seeing the strobing

image
at x1 LED pulsing is very difficult). Also now knowing that spindles

come in
sizes like 1.99mm ... 2.49 mm never seemingly 1.95mm , always ending

with a
9 so no great accuracy required to measure the spindles , often with
restricted access for mic/calipers
Then maths for tape speed for 1 7/8 inches per second.
This worked fine for 2.29mm spindle and for a hyper-critical musician.

I repeat this technique this week for a much more basic machine which

has a
1.69mm spindle and scaling for that, adjusting motor speed and even I

could
tell ,playing a familiar music tape ,that the tempo was wrong.
Placing 1KHz test tape in and checking beats with a f-counter coupled

sig
gen and it was 1 and 1/3 semitones too fast. So what have I not taken

into
account in the linear scaling, influence of tape thickness ? tape curl
around a tighter spindle? different rubber formulation of the pinch

wheel?

In the same vein what is the piece of Wagner music that has something

like
39 bars of the same note played from the beginning , Tristan & Isolde ?

..
What other piece of music commercially recorded onto cassette tape, to

look
out for, containing a sustained single note it might be possible to use

as a
test tape. ?

Anyone use a tape with any old constant tone recorded on it but small
magnet
erased start and stop points of 100 seconds say by measured length of

1.875
x 100 inches ( by pulling out of the cassette and then rewinding back

in )?
Would be slow but would be a last back stop I suppose for

cross-comparison

I have made a tape measuring marks, and touching each mark with something
slightly magnetic. They don't have to close together.

Greg


"They don't have to close together." ----- They don't have to be close
together.?


I was forgetting whatever your reaction time is, then the same for start and
stop mark so 100 seconds is excessive.
When I have some time I will dig out a deck and try cross-comparing this
measured length, 1KHz tape of old and strobing ,

Another thought . Anyone know what effect, for an otherwise good deck and
same pinchwheel contact force , would swapping the pinch wheel for a harder
rubber composistion have and a softer one.