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Leon[_7_]

On 2/14/2012 10:37 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:32:38 -0600, Leonlcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 2/14/2012 12:17 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/14/2012 11:44 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Han wrote:

That's a given. Whether "you" are on the side of science is the
question. For some of the set of "you" that is doubtful. Karl is at
least one who is on the side of science.

So... since "science" has its own levels of dispute, just what does it
mean
to be "on the side of science"? I would submit that this phrase comes
from
people who are not really all that scientific in their approach, but
rather
like the idea that someone else is in agreement with them. With all of
the
dispute in the comunity of "peer review" (and in fact - the whole
concept of
peer review), would someone please explain to me how "scientific" has any
real meaning at all? The greatest minds of our scientific community world
wide, have widely differing beliefs on things, so how can a woodworkers
newsgroup even pretend to use the word "scientific" in regards to any
discussion in this forum? To take a phrase from m II - Bull****.

Easy ... unlike "climate change", the various "States of Matter" (which
were indeed under discussion in this very newsgroup, by woodworkers,
woodworkers with science degrees, among other things, and contrary to
your last word above, the "S" in BS in this case stands for "science"
g) are well understood and pretty universally "accepted science" for
the past few hundred years... at least, so far.

Certainly good enough to cook your dinner, steam your clams, freeze your
food, make your AC work, and put a man on the moon, among other things.

I'll take that degree of "scientific" acceptance any day ...

That't it! Thai's what caused the cold front to cause condensation on
the tools! GLOBAL WARMING!

My nephew's wife swears that Globel Warming is causing global cooling.
Yup that right you heard that for the first time right here. LOL

It's Butches fault.
The "correct" term is "climate change"
Her in Ontario we've had a pretty "warm" winter, while eastern Europe
is MUCH colder than normal.
"Climate Change" appears to be causing extremes much more noticeable
than the reported 2? degree average world temperature increase over
how many years?.

I believe that if we had data available to us 150 years ago like we do
today and if we lived to be 200 years old and could remember back to our
child hood this "climate change" would be a normal cycle.

Even with crude records and data we have always witnessed summers that
were hotter and cooler than normal for several years in a row and we
have witnessed winters that are colder and warmer than for several years
in a row.

AND because every thing that we are doing to put an end to this "ending
of the world as we know it" is not helping one iota, read that as things
are observed as getting worse faster, we have no clue what causes
extended temperature changes, up or down. Weather extremes? You can
fond worse weather extremes in the past using Google.

I assure you if government was not involved or if there was no money to
be made off of this latest world problem there would not be another word
said about it.