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On 30 Jan 2012 14:28:32 GMT, Han wrote:

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On 30 Jan 2012 02:34:59 GMT, Han wrote:

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On 30 Jan 2012 02:05:08 GMT, Han wrote:

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But you *DID* state that it should be submitted so that you can
censor it. That's called "prior restraint".

Submit it to me as an example and I'll see what I can do to make
your praayer into a not-prayer without changing the summary
meaning of your words. You, me, personally. That's what I meant.

Irrelevant. You believe it speech should be censored.

We live in a generally Judeo-Christian society, and other
religions generally share the same values, if you snip out the
wild idiots.

And, yes, IMNSHO there is prior restraint indicated for speaking
at public high schools.

Where do you stop? Remember, this is about prior restraint.

Disagree, it all is part of having respect for other people's views.

Bull****. You want to censor others views. PC is *exactly* that.

If
you want to preach or pray amongst people who share your views, go
ahead, but public schools are for everyone, just like government is
for everybody.

Does it hurt you if I pray for an 'A'? Does it hurt you if the
football team prays for a win? Does it kill you if a pastor blesses
a scout father-son diner being served in a public school?

If you want to do those things to others, they have the right
to shut you up, politely. E.g., you're not supposed to yell fire in
a movie theatre, especially if there is no fire. Now if there ever
was prior restraint, that is it.

If other don't want to pray, yes, they can simply shut up. What
damage is it really causing them?

Don't change the subject.

I'm not.

Yes you were grin.

We were talking about one "representative" of
a group of public high school kids leading the whole group, or giving
a valedictorian speech or some such.

Or a football team. Or a scout troup. Or...

Those may be different. Is the football team public, then any public
utterance should refrain from religious utterances. The BSA is indeed a
religion-conscious institution, in most cases, although individual troops
may be less so.

That's totally different from an
individual mumbling a prayer for him/her self. I have no objection to
that unless it is coercive. Or if it leads to mass hysteria as those
girls in a high school near Buffalo NY, who got into weird tics of
some kind.

Mass hysteria? I'm glad you're a doctor who can diagnose such from
300mi. You're better than House.

There was quite a bit to do about this, and the final consensus was a
case of mass hysteria, as published in several places, 60 minutes as an
example.

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Han
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