On 1/25/2012 11:16 AM, Han wrote:
Leonlcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in
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On 1/25/2012 8:53 AM, Han wrote:
Leonlcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in
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On 1/25/2012 7:46 AM, Han wrote:
Have you added any vortex/dust deputy to the Festool vacuum, as I
have heard some people have done to reducethe number of times you
need to empty the bag?

If so, which one?


Han I have used 6 bags in almost 5 years in my Festool vac. And I
have been so busy in the last 18 months that I have probably used 3
bags.

At about $6-$7 per bag I am ok with replacing them and not having to
deal with an extra piece in between me and the vacuum.

Unless you are talking about this, and I can probably buy 30 bags
for this price. ;~)

http://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=AXD000009&CatId={6EE
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I think these systems are interesting but besides saving $20 a year
on bags I don't see much advantage, you still have to dispose of the
waste and make room for the unit.

Thanks for the testimonial, Leon!
Yes, $200 is ridiculous, but you do get a unit that fits onto the
vacuum in almost matching colors ...


LOL. YES! there is value in the coordinating color ensemble! Right
Swingman? ;~)

I currently have a "hose garage" on top of my CT22. That would be
harder to get to when putting away or accessing the hose.
Additionally I stack the systainer of the tool that I am using on top
of the vac.

FWIW I don't know if you have filled a bag to capacity or not but I am
still amazed at how much the bags will hold. I would say the bag will
fill to about 97% volume capacity before I see a drop in suction. And
then the bag is like a cinder block. Well maybe not that heavy. LOL

As you know I'm an amateur, and not pushing the Festool stuff I have to
their limits, far from it. I just know how much of a difference my
amateur cyclone (garbage can plus Rockler (?) top made to my DC.


Agreed the cyclones do a good job at separation.

I have a Jet DC with a pleated filter on top that is almost 6 years old.
I use it most all the time and have replaced the waste bag countless
times. I use a 45 gal contractors bag and toss the whole thing. What I
see with using a cyclone is less shop space and the same amount of dust
to deal with when something needs to be emptied.

A half full bag weighs about 30~40 lbs and is a little tough to get out
of the dust collector because the bag expands wider than the top filter
support arms. This is with a normal mix of saw dust. Now imagine that
bag being half full with just fine saw dust. How heavy is that going to
be? If I bought a cyclone I would probably wonder how I ever got along
with out it. LOL