On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:04:03 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote:

Michael Dobony wrote:
I had to replace a lost Channel Lock slip groove pliers and went to Walmart
and picked up a model 430. I used them to take off some nylock nuts and it
nearly slipped out of joint. I took a look at them and noticed the nut and
bolt was replaced by a rivet! Took them back and went to Lowes and got a
Kobalt brand. MUCH better! Too bad Channel Lock went cheap.

Mike D.
Hi,
As long as we keep buying junk, they will keep making them,
I go to flea market, garage sale.etc. to pick up vintage real thing
for less than the price of new junk.

The Kobalt functions very well, but the handles seem a little shorter than
the Channel Locks. They do not slip and I do not see any reason to suspect
hard use to affect them, much like the old Channel Locks.