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On Dec 31 2011, 10:19 pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
PV wrote:
Bob F wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
"For the first time, the top export of the United States, the
world's biggest gas guzzler, is - wait for it - fuel. Measured in
dollars, the nation is on pace this year to ship more gasoline,
diesel, and jet fuel than any other single export, according to
U.S. Census data going back to 1990. It will also be the first
year in more than 60 that America has been a net exporter of these
fuels."
http://news.yahoo.com/first-gas-othe...200739553.html

And we'll increase exports as soon as they build that new pipeline.

If you are talking about the Keystone Project, you may want to look
a little deeper into your last statement

Yep. The pres has about 56 days to render a decision. Of course
he'll veto the project.

Then the oil industry goes to court, probably in a friendly venue
like Texas, where the decision will automatically be in favor of the
oil bidness. The government will most certainly appeal. To the Fifth
Judicial District. In New Orleans.

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It's quite amazing that the president is sitting on this and left
to his own devices would have not made any decision until
after the election. A simple pipeline that would not only create
jobs and bring more oil to the USA, but also increase our
national security and have petro dollars going to Canada, where
it's more likely they might wind up back here for goods and
services.

And it will be interesting to see if he approves it or not.
If he doesn't it will make a good campaign issue that
will resonate with most people. If he
does, it will **** off the environmental extremists, who
would have us living in caves.

I checked. We already have over 55,000 miles of oil and gas pipelines
criss-crossing the country. The amount of trouble they've caused in fifty or
more years of service ranges from none at all, to "We'll fix that leak
someday soon."

As for jobs, well, sure. There's going to be a bunch of them just digging
2,000+ miles of trenches and laying the pipe. But did you stop to think:
"Where's the pipe coming from?"

Somebody's got to MAKE the pipe. Assuming it will be made in the steel mills
of Pennsylvania, it still has to be TRANSPORTED to the job site.

Imagine each pipe joint is 50' long. That's over 200,000 joints of 12" pipe.
If a truck can manage, oh, 50 pieces, that's over 4,000 truck loads going to
the excavation site. Even if the pipe comes from China, it still has to get
from San Diego to Nebraska.

There's an awful lot of jobs in making and/or moving just the pipe. Then
there are compressor stations every couple of miles, access roads alongside
the pipeline, inspection points, monitoring stations, and a host of
auxiliary items.

It's a big job.